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rebeltarian
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The libertarian vote in '08?
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February 26, 2010, 07:55:46 pm »
Does anyone have any data on how they voted in '08? I've found data that showed voters describing themselves as libertarians went for Bush 72-20 and 59-36 in '00 and '04, respectively. For 2008, I've only been able to find a pre-election poll that showed libertarians favoring Obama over McCain 53-38.
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Re: The libertarian vote in '08?
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February 28, 2010, 01:43:18 pm »
I voted for Obama, and I'm still relatively unapologetic about it.
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Re: The libertarian vote in '08?
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February 28, 2010, 01:45:44 pm »
Quote from: rebeltarian on February 26, 2010, 07:55:46 pm
Does anyone have any data on how they voted in '08? I've found data that showed voters describing themselves as libertarians went for Bush 72-20 and 59-36 in '00 and '04, respectively. For 2008, I've only been able to find a pre-election poll that showed libertarians favoring Obama over McCain 53-38.
Where is this pre-election poll? How did they decide who was a libertarian? Obama was the most un-libertarian candidate in the race.
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Re: The libertarian vote in '08?
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February 28, 2010, 02:14:08 pm »
Quote from: Lt. Gov and Rep. Libertas on February 28, 2010, 01:45:44 pm
Quote from: rebeltarian on February 26, 2010, 07:55:46 pm
Does anyone have any data on how they voted in '08? I've found data that showed voters describing themselves as libertarians went for Bush 72-20 and 59-36 in '00 and '04, respectively. For 2008, I've only been able to find a pre-election poll that showed libertarians favoring Obama over McCain 53-38.
Where is this pre-election poll? How did they decide who was a libertarian? Obama was the most un-libertarian candidate in the race.
Hey "libertarian leaning voters" voted 75% for Nixon over McGovern, doesn't mean Nixon was more libertarian than McGovern.
Just saying.
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http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa580.pdf
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Re: The libertarian vote in '08?
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February 28, 2010, 02:21:46 pm »
Quote from: Hussein Bin Tatal on February 28, 2010, 02:14:08 pm
Quote from: Lt. Gov and Rep. Libertas on February 28, 2010, 01:45:44 pm
Quote from: rebeltarian on February 26, 2010, 07:55:46 pm
Does anyone have any data on how they voted in '08? I've found data that showed voters describing themselves as libertarians went for Bush 72-20 and 59-36 in '00 and '04, respectively. For 2008, I've only been able to find a pre-election poll that showed libertarians favoring Obama over McCain 53-38.
Where is this pre-election poll? How did they decide who was a libertarian? Obama was the most un-libertarian candidate in the race.
Hey "libertarian leaning voters" voted 75% for Nixon over McGovern, doesn't mean Nixon was more libertarian than McGovern.
Just saying.
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http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa580.pdf
Of course, so you are agreeing with me, correct?
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Re: The libertarian vote in '08?
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February 28, 2010, 02:23:04 pm »
Quote from: Lt. Gov and Rep. Libertas on February 28, 2010, 02:21:46 pm
Quote from: Hussein Bin Tatal on February 28, 2010, 02:14:08 pm
Quote from: Lt. Gov and Rep. Libertas on February 28, 2010, 01:45:44 pm
Quote from: rebeltarian on February 26, 2010, 07:55:46 pm
Does anyone have any data on how they voted in '08? I've found data that showed voters describing themselves as libertarians went for Bush 72-20 and 59-36 in '00 and '04, respectively. For 2008, I've only been able to find a pre-election poll that showed libertarians favoring Obama over McCain 53-38.
Where is this pre-election poll? How did they decide who was a libertarian? Obama was the most un-libertarian candidate in the race.
Hey "libertarian leaning voters" voted 75% for Nixon over McGovern, doesn't mean Nixon was more libertarian than McGovern.
Just saying.
Source:
http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa580.pdf
Of course, so you are agreeing with me, correct?
The fact of the matter is that libertarians rarely vote their interests, and frequently align themselves with some pretty un-and-anti-libertarian people.
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Quote from: Figaro on April 16, 2010, 05:16:50 pm
The right to die in Iraq was a right not previously possessed by Americans for twelve long years. Bush rectified that.
rebeltarian
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Re: The libertarian vote in '08?
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March 01, 2010, 04:50:52 pm »
Quote from: Lt. Gov and Rep. Libertas on February 28, 2010, 01:45:44 pm
Quote from: rebeltarian on February 26, 2010, 07:55:46 pm
Does anyone have any data on how they voted in '08? I've found data that showed voters describing themselves as libertarians went for Bush 72-20 and 59-36 in '00 and '04, respectively. For 2008, I've only been able to find a pre-election poll that showed libertarians favoring Obama over McCain 53-38.
Where is this pre-election poll? How did they decide who was a libertarian? Obama was the most un-libertarian candidate in the race.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/07/05/rasmussen-libertarians-favor-obama-over-mccain-5338/
It was a Rasmussen Report: those describing themselves as "fiscally conservative and socially liberal" favored Obama. They comprised 4% of a polling census of 1500. Not a very reliable sampling and a loose definition of the term, but I'm not surprised if many libertarians went with Obama after 8 years of Bush's excesses and McCain's liberal record. I'd like to find some hard, post election data, but my search has been unfruitful thus far.
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Re: The libertarian vote in '08?
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http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2010/01/21/the-libertarian-vote-in-the-age-of-obama/
"Libertarian voters swung away from Bush and the GOP in 2004 and 2006, but in 2008 they swung back, voting for McCain by 71 to 27 percent, presumably because the prospect of a Democratic president with a Democratic Congress in the midst of a financial crisis was frightening to small-government voters. Also, while many libertarian intellectuals had a real antipathy to McCain, the typical libertarian voter saw McCain as an independent, straight-talking maverick who was a strong opponent of earmarks and pork-barrel spending and never talked about social issues."
an imperfect study, but results seem likely
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Re: The libertarian vote in '08?
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March 08, 2010, 12:40:10 am »
Quote from: Scam of God on February 28, 2010, 02:23:04 pm
The fact of the matter is that libertarians rarely vote their interests, and frequently align themselves with some pretty un-and-anti-libertarian people.
Why did you vote for Obama if you want libertarians to vote their interests?
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Re: The libertarian vote in '08?
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Quote from: Scam of God on February 28, 2010, 01:43:18 pm
I voted for Obama, and I'm still relatively unapologetic about it.
You don't regret voting for some who hasn't withdrawn from Iraq and Afghanistan, expanded the latter war into Pakistan, continued the illegal detainment of people in Bagram Air Base and Gitmo, and approved the reauthorization of the PATRIOT Act?
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Re: The libertarian vote in '08?
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Quote from: SPC on March 08, 2010, 12:43:33 am
Quote from: Scam of God on February 28, 2010, 01:43:18 pm
I voted for Obama, and I'm still relatively unapologetic about it.
You don't regret voting for some who hasn't withdrawn from Iraq and Afghanistan, expanded the latter war into Pakistan, continued the illegal detainment of people in Bagram Air Base and Gitmo, and approved the reauthorization of the PATRIOT Act?
Of course he doesn't. All that matters to Einzige is that he has a (D) after his name.
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