Thailand: Migrant Workers Face Killings, Extortion, Labor Rights Abuses

[dead0man]

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Sounds like heaven compared to the "Bad Place".

[Franzl]

But opebo is not a black.....and not a poor. Therefore, he is somewhat protected from being slaughtered by the Thai "owners".

[dead0man]

Right, they ain't just xenophobic, they're flat out racists.

[GMantis]

Right, they ain't just xenophobic, they're flat out racists.

I think it's more important that the US would tear them a new ass if anything happened to an US citizen.

[Franzl]

Right, they ain't just xenophobic, they're flat out racists.

I think it's more important that the US would tear them a new ass if anything happened to an US citizen.

What exactly do you think the US would do? Invade?

[opebo]

You fellows are absolutely mad if you think this isn't also the way illegals are treated in the US.

[dead0man]

Police in American shoot men dead and then take turns raping his wife if they are illegals?  With nothing to come of it?  I know it's pointless, but cite?

[opebo]

Police in American shoot men dead and then take turns raping his wife if they are illegals?  With nothing to come of it?  I know it's pointless, but cite?

Cite?  How can you cite what happens secretly - by definition it is not flaunted openly.  But you really think that police don't rape and kill poors, and particularly 'illegal' poors, with impunity?  

[dead0man]

Yes, I truly believe they don't but I'm not surprised at all that you do.  But out of curiosity, what lead you to this conclusion?



(I'm not saying it's never ever happened, that would be stupid. I'm saying it is not a regular occurrence.)

[opebo]

Yes, I truly believe they don't but I'm not surprised at all that you do.  But out of curiosity, what lead you to this conclusion?

I know of no mechanism to stop it, and I think there are lots of police who would enjoy these sorts of behaviors, so yes, I think it is likely to occur at times.  Of course there is always some risk of exposure, so its not happening every day.

[dead0man]

So are you or are you not saying the police in the US are as abusive as they are in Thailand?  Your first post insinuated that the same kinds of things going on in Thailand are going on in the same way and amount in the US.  Do you still stand by that?  That seems insane to me.  Yeah, cops can be dicks.  It's a profession that attracts people with a desire to abuse their power.  We as society have learned ways to try to limit them actually becoming cops, but some people are still going to sneak in.  It's also a profession that attracts people that really do want to help society.  That really do care about "serving and protecting".  I'd bet dollars to donuts that there are more of those types as police in the US than there are the power abusers.

And yes, I have had a lot more negative attention from cops than I have neutral or positive interaction with them.  Granted, I'm not a brown.

[opebo]

I have no way of knowing, deadman, if the police are more or less abusive in the US or Thailand.

[dead0man]

That's not what you said in your post here, but ok.

[opebo]

That's not what you said in your post here, but ok.

I said one would have to be naive to believe that this doesn't occur in the US. 

[dead0man]

You said "treated the same".  You, I and everybody else knows what you implied.  It is ok to admit when wrong.  In fact, it makes you a better man.

[opebo]

You said "treated the same".  You, I and everybody else knows what you implied.  It is ok to admit when wrong.  In fact, it makes you a better man.

Ah, I see,  you thought I meant they were treated in exactly the same way, every time.  Interesting, but obviously not what I meant.

[GMantis]

Right, they ain't just xenophobic, they're flat out racists.

I think it's more important that the US would tear them a new ass if anything happened to an US citizen.

What exactly do you think the US would do? Invade?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thailand_–_United_States_relations#Economic_relations
There is a reason most Third world nations (and not only third world) suck up to the US.

[dead0man]

You said "treated the same".  You, I and everybody else knows what you implied.  It is ok to admit when wrong.  In fact, it makes you a better man.

Ah, I see,  you thought I meant they were treated in exactly the same way, every time.  Interesting, but obviously not what I meant.

Obviously.