When will the GOP next nominate a pro-abortion candidate for President?

[Bo]

For reference, the only time the GOP has in the past was in 1976, with Ford.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

For reference, the only time the GOP has in the past was in 1976, with Ford.

That's an inaccurate statement.



And 2012.

[Bo]

For reference, the only time the GOP has in the past was in 1976, with Ford.

That's an inaccurate statement.

Then make it accurate.

[Bo]

When abortion rights become even more mainstream and accepted then they are now, probably in the 2020s and at the latest, 2030s.

I'm not sure that will happen. According to several polls, younger voters have approximately the same views on abortion as the older generation. Some polls even suggest that younger voters are slightly more pro-life. Thus, I don't see opinions on abortion changing anytime soon, especially considering that the younger generation grew up in a much more liberal environment than the older generation.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

When abortion rights become even more mainstream and accepted then they are now, probably in the 2020s and at the latest, 2030s.

No.

The pro-life cause will win out in the end. Murder of unborn children will never become "mainstream" and "accepted".

[The Age Wave]

When abortion rights become even more mainstream and accepted then they are now, probably in the 2020s and at the latest, 2030s.

I'm not sure that will happen. According to several polls, younger voters have approximately the same views on abortion as the older generation. Some polls even suggest that younger voters are slightly more pro-life. Thus, I don't see opinions on abortion changing anytime soon, especially considering that the younger generation grew up in a much more liberal environment than the older generation.

None of that matters. Over time, more socially liberal generations emerge, and old "conservative" beliefs are struck down. The cycle, as always, will repeat itself.

You say this though all trends show the opposite? I am curious as to how you come to the conclusion that pro-choice views are increasing.

[Bo]

When abortion rights become even more mainstream and accepted then they are now, probably in the 2020s and at the latest, 2030s.

No.

The pro-life cause will win out in the end. Murder of unborn children will never become "mainstream" and "accepted".

I actually agree with Libertas here.

[The Age Wave]

When abortion rights become even more mainstream and accepted then they are now, probably in the 2020s and at the latest, 2030s.

I'm not sure that will happen. According to several polls, younger voters have approximately the same views on abortion as the older generation. Some polls even suggest that younger voters are slightly more pro-life. Thus, I don't see opinions on abortion changing anytime soon, especially considering that the younger generation grew up in a much more liberal environment than the older generation.

None of that matters. Over time, more socially liberal generations emerge, and old "conservative" beliefs are struck down. The cycle, as always, will repeat itself.

You say this though all trends show the opposite? I am curious as to how you come to the conclusion that pro-choice views are increasing.

I never said that they were increasing at the moment, I just said that they would become gradually more accepted over time. The 2020s time-frame was probably wrong, now that I think about it, it will be by mid-century. And of course, I am speaking of the world, not America.

The world is more conservative than America on social issues.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

When abortion rights become even more mainstream and accepted then they are now, probably in the 2020s and at the latest, 2030s.

I'm not sure that will happen. According to several polls, younger voters have approximately the same views on abortion as the older generation. Some polls even suggest that younger voters are slightly more pro-life. Thus, I don't see opinions on abortion changing anytime soon, especially considering that the younger generation grew up in a much more liberal environment than the older generation.

None of that matters. Over time, more socially liberal generations emerge, and old "conservative" beliefs are struck down. The cycle, as always, will repeat itself.

You say this though all trends show the opposite? I am curious as to how you come to the conclusion that pro-choice views are increasing.

I never said that they were increasing at the moment, I just said that they would become gradually more accepted over time. The 2020s time-frame was probably wrong, now that I think about it, it will be by mid-century. And of course, I am speaking of the world, not America.

The world is more conservative than America on social issues.

Obviously. Europe will have accepted far before America does, and Africa, South America, and Asia (as a whole) will eventually accept it later then America does.

Why are you acting as if the world becoming pro-abortion is inevitable when there is no evidence to suggest that?

[Bo]

For reference, the only time the GOP has in the past was in 1976, with Ford.

That's an inaccurate statement.

Then make it accurate.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Ford was not a pro-abortion candidate in 1976. I thought it was pretty obvious that that was what I was saying. Actually neither candidate in '76 expressed "pro-choice" sentiments.

[The Mikado]

When abortion rights become even more mainstream and accepted then they are now, probably in the 2020s and at the latest, 2030s.

I'm not sure that will happen. According to several polls, younger voters have approximately the same views on abortion as the older generation. Some polls even suggest that younger voters are slightly more pro-life. Thus, I don't see opinions on abortion changing anytime soon, especially considering that the younger generation grew up in a much more liberal environment than the older generation.

None of that matters. Over time, more socially liberal generations emerge, and old "conservative" beliefs are struck down. The cycle, as always, will repeat itself.

In this particular case, I think you're very much wrong, and I'm as pro-choice as they come.  Abortion will still be debated widely for decades to come, and there won't be a strong movement one way or the other.  This is in contrast to the gay rights issue, which I'm confident will be more or less decided (if not "over" in some circles) within the next two decades in favor of de jure equality.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

When abortion rights become even more mainstream and accepted then they are now, probably in the 2020s and at the latest, 2030s.

I'm not sure that will happen. According to several polls, younger voters have approximately the same views on abortion as the older generation. Some polls even suggest that younger voters are slightly more pro-life. Thus, I don't see opinions on abortion changing anytime soon, especially considering that the younger generation grew up in a much more liberal environment than the older generation.

None of that matters. Over time, more socially liberal generations emerge, and old "conservative" beliefs are struck down. The cycle, as always, will repeat itself.

In this particular case, I think you're very much wrong, and I'm as pro-choice as they come.  Abortion will still be debated widely for decades to come, and there won't be a strong movement one way or the other.  This is in contrast to the gay rights issue, which I'm confident will be more or less decided (if not "over" in some circles) within the next two decades in favor of de jure equality.

Yes, abortion and gay rights are on two different planes entirely. I am pro-life and pro-gay rights.

[Bo]

When abortion rights become even more mainstream and accepted then they are now, probably in the 2020s and at the latest, 2030s.

I'm not sure that will happen. According to several polls, younger voters have approximately the same views on abortion as the older generation. Some polls even suggest that younger voters are slightly more pro-life. Thus, I don't see opinions on abortion changing anytime soon, especially considering that the younger generation grew up in a much more liberal environment than the older generation.

None of that matters. Over time, more socially liberal generations emerge, and old "conservative" beliefs are struck down. The cycle, as always, will repeat itself.

In this particular case, I think you're very much wrong, and I'm as pro-choice as they come.  Abortion will still be debated widely for decades to come, and there won't be a strong movement one way or the other.  This is in contrast to the gay rights issue, which I'm confident will be more or less decided (if not "over" in some circles) within the next two decades in favor of de jure equality.

Yes, abortion and gay rights are on two different planes entirely. I am pro-life and pro-gay rights.

Same here.

[21st Century Independent]

If it meant defeating Obama in 2012 then you bet your life.

[Derek]

Romney in 2012