Should the draft be reinstated?

[Free Palestine]

Who the fuck voted yes?

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Not now. Only in a massive war do we need the draft, like WWII. Selective Service works just fine now.

it's not fine to threaten young men with imprisonment for not signing up for something

[Vepres]

1990s-style nationalism doesn't really exist in most of the US these days, plus all the other reasons given. I mean, we have something like 2 million people in the military, that's more than enough (in fact, probably too much).

[Free Palestine]

Not now. Only in a massive war do we need the draft, like WWII. Selective Service works just fine now.

it's not fine to threaten young men with imprisonment for not signing up for something

You don't go to prison anymore for not signing up.

[k-onmmunist]

Whoever voted yes, please own up now.

[Electric Feel]

Who the fuck voted yes?

Rochambeau's dad.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Not now. Only in a massive war do we need the draft, like WWII. Selective Service works just fine now.

it's not fine to threaten young men with imprisonment for not signing up for something

You don't go to prison anymore for not signing up.

This is what they are legally empowered to do to you:  "A man who fails to register may, if prosecuted and convicted, face a fine of up to $250,000 and/or a prison term of up to five years. "
http://www.sss.gov/FSbenefits.htm

[Free Palestine]

Not now. Only in a massive war do we need the draft, like WWII. Selective Service works just fine now.

it's not fine to threaten young men with imprisonment for not signing up for something

You don't go to prison anymore for not signing up.

This is what they are legally empowered to do to you:  "A man who fails to register may, if prosecuted and convicted, face a fine of up to $250,000 and/or a prison term of up to five years. "
http://www.sss.gov/FSbenefits.htm

True, but nobody has been prosecuted for it since the eighties.  It should still be abolished, though.

[Torie]

No. The proposal is absurd, particularly in this age of a high tech army, that requires a pretty high skill set level among the troops. A few good "men," is the paradigm now.

[Dancing with Myself]

No, for many reasons. The military doesn't want people to be there against their will....and it's a great violation of personal liberty.

[Nhoj]

Not now. Only in a massive war do we need the draft, like WWII. Selective Service works just fine now.

it's not fine to threaten young men with imprisonment for not signing up for something

You don't go to prison anymore for not signing up.

This is what they are legally empowered to do to you:  "A man who fails to register may, if prosecuted and convicted, face a fine of up to $250,000 and/or a prison term of up to five years. "
http://www.sss.gov/FSbenefits.htm

They signed me up for it without me even submitting anything to them. I discovered that after I realized that I was past the date you are suppose to register by once you turn 18 and went to the site to register and discovered that my name had already been registered.
So i don't think one has much to worry about in the way of prison or fines if they register you without your knowledge.
Also to answer the topic question of course not the draft should never be reinstated.

[Free Palestine]

I never actually got my letter from the Schutzstaffel Selective Service when I turned eighteen.  Either they didn't have me on record since I didn't go to a normal, public high school, or they signed me up without my knowledge.  Or, of course, my father got the letter and sent it in, without my knowledge.

[Deldem]

Not now. Only in a massive war do we need the draft, like WWII. Selective Service works just fine now.

it's not fine to threaten young men with imprisonment for not signing up for something

You don't go to prison anymore for not signing up.

This is what they are legally empowered to do to you:  "A man who fails to register may, if prosecuted and convicted, face a fine of up to $250,000 and/or a prison term of up to five years. "
http://www.sss.gov/FSbenefits.htm

They signed me up for it without me even submitting anything to them. I discovered that after I realized that I was past the date you are suppose to register by once you turn 18 and went to the site to register and discovered that my name had already been registered.
So i don't think one has much to worry about in the way of prison or fines if they register you without your knowledge.
Also to answer the topic question of course not the draft should never be reinstated.

Did you apply for financial aid? I think it's part of some of the forms.

[CARLHAYDEN]

We need an option of "Hell No!"

I am pround my son is serving his country in the armed forces, as did his father, his grandfathers, and three of his great grandfathers (not sure about the fourth),

[Magic 8-Ball]

No.

[CultureKing]

Truthfully I wouldn't be horribly opposed to a year of service after high school, similar to what is done in some countries of Europe. The time could be used to teach practical skills to many youth that are definitely lacking, also would make it so that going to war would be a much more difficult decision.

But the draft as it used to be: No.

[k-onmmunist]

Truthfully I wouldn't be horribly opposed to a year of service after high school, similar to what is done in some countries of Europe. The time could be used to teach practical skills to many youth that are definitely lacking, also would make it so that going to war would be a much more difficult decision.

But the draft as it used to be: No.

Ugh. Slavery is bad.

[Free Palestine]

Truthfully I wouldn't be horribly opposed to a year of service after high school, similar to what is done in some countries of Europe. The time could be used to teach practical skills to many youth that are definitely lacking, also would make it so that going to war would be a much more difficult decision.

But the draft as it used to be: No.

Ugh. Slavery is bad.

[Nhoj]

Not now. Only in a massive war do we need the draft, like WWII. Selective Service works just fine now.

it's not fine to threaten young men with imprisonment for not signing up for something

You don't go to prison anymore for not signing up.

This is what they are legally empowered to do to you:  "A man who fails to register may, if prosecuted and convicted, face a fine of up to $250,000 and/or a prison term of up to five years. "
http://www.sss.gov/FSbenefits.htm

They signed me up for it without me even submitting anything to them. I discovered that after I realized that I was past the date you are suppose to register by once you turn 18 and went to the site to register and discovered that my name had already been registered.
So i don't think one has much to worry about in the way of prison or fines if they register you without your knowledge.
Also to answer the topic question of course not the draft should never be reinstated.

Did you apply for financial aid? I think it's part of some of the forms.

You have to be registered with selective service to apply for financial aid. That is why I had gone to register with Selective service, as i was thinking of applying for Fafsa.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I know a guy who literally registered the day the last day he was eligible to register (that being December 31st of the year he turned 25). The reason being not registering can deny you possible government-related employment later. Kind of silly to wait that late though since there obviously would be no draft, but I guess he wanted to make a point...

[Free Palestine]

I know a guy who literally registered the day the last day he was eligible to register (that being December 31st of the year he turned 25). The reason being not registering can deny you possible government-related employment later. Kind of silly to wait that late though since there obviously would be no draft, but I guess he wanted to make a point...

Does government-related employment include public office?

[Frihet]

No, a State that needs to force men into service doesn't deserve to be defended.