Was there any way for the Nazis to have won?

[LBJ Revivalist]

Pre America entering the War, what would've enabled Germany to win the war? I mean what differences in battles or tactics or strategies that would've assured a German victory?

Also, what about after America entered the war?

And finally--If not for the Bomb, what do you think would've happened in the Pacific Theatre. We know a joint US-Soviet invasion of Japan was planned, so say that happened, what would've happened? Could we have beaten the Japanese or would it have been a much longer war?

[Fmr. Emperor PiT]

     I think they probably could have had the Great Depression not occurred & more isolationist factions were leading the United States. It also would have helped them for the United States to not rebuke Japan over the invasion of French Indo-China.

[SPC]

I'd say it would be a small possibility if neither Operation Barbarosa nor the German-Japanese alliance go into effect. And even then, I doubt that Germany would have defeated Britain.

[Χahar]

If Italy doesn't invade Greece, Barbarossa goes off on time and is much more successful.

[True Federalist]

The Nazis, no.
Germany winning WWII, yes.

[Bo]

Invade the U.S.S.R. sooner in 1941. Also, convice Japan not to attack Hawaii or Indochina. Also, don't kill Jews and instead use them to build a nuke or many nukes.

[Scam of God]

The United States, France, and Britain were all absolutely unnecessary in winning the war. The Soviet Union could have defeated them alone, after a decade of struggle that would turn everything between the Urals and the Rhine red and depopulated both nations to the breaking point.

[RIP Robert H Bork]

The Nazis would have won the war if they were to win the Battle of Britain.

[RosettaStoned]

The United States, France, and Britain were all absolutely unnecessary in winning the war. The Soviet Union could have defeated them alone, after a decade of struggle that would turn everything between the Urals and the Rhine red and depopulated both nations to the breaking point.

The correct answer.

[Californian Tony]

They shouldn't have implied United States and USSR in the war.

[dialectical fetishist]

The United States, France, and Britain were all absolutely unnecessary in winning the war. The Soviet Union could have defeated them alone, after a decade of struggle that would turn everything between the Urals and the Rhine red and depopulated both nations to the breaking point.

The correct answer.

[justW353]

Hate to bump, but...

It would have been as simple as Stalin accepting Hitler's offer to join the Axis Powers.

[21st Century Independent]

     I think they probably could have had the Great Depression not occurred & more isolationist factions were leading the United States. It also would have helped them for the United States to not rebuke Japan over the invasion of French Indo-China.

Actually, the Great Depression was one of the reasons the Nazis got into power. The US was investing big money into President Von Hindenburg's Germany prior to Great Depression striking. This in turn hurt Germany greatly which Hitler capitalized on to truly take over.

[21st Century Independent]

Another way that the Nazis would have improved their chances at winning was to not have focused on eliminating the Jewish population. They spent alot of time on this when they could have utilized all troops and resources in their battles.

[pbrower2a]

The KKK takes over the United States about the same time as the Nazis did in Germany, and the world goes to Hell. Literal Hell, as the KKK and the Nazis become partners in crime, complete with shared genocide due to their shared hatred.

Of course, if Germany and Japan have reasonably decent governments and the KKK takes over in America, I can imagine the US split from the Straits of Mackinac through Lake Michigan, the Chicago River, the Chicago Ship and Sanitary Canal, the Des Plaines River, the Illinois River, and the Mississippi River.  War Crimes trials proceed for major military, judicial, and (secret) police figures -- not to mention the Imperial Wizard, some Grand Dragons, and stooge politicians.   

 

[cpeeks]

They never had a freakin chance, you cant fight a war on 3 different fronts, against 3 of the worlds superpowers, and the worlds largest industrial producer and expect to win.

[True Federalist]

One off-topic post has been split off into a separate thread, History is written by the winners which can be found on the History board.

[Yelnoc]

I saw a thought-provoking show on National Geographic yesterday about the Nazi secret super weapons program.  If they had concentrated their resources on a few defensive rockets and other defensive measures than they could have held all three fronts for much longer.  They had an America bomber program capable of flighing to New York and the know-how to create the atomic bomb at about the same time as America.  All that stood in their way was political correctness and mismanagement from political and military superiors.

If Germany had focused on churning out defensive weapons in 1943 they could have held back the Soviets, broken any allied offensive on the continent and stalled the allies in North Africa long enough to develop the a-bomb and the America bombers.  Then, drop atomic bombs on London, New York, Washington D.C, and Moscow.  America and Great Britain sue for peace allowing Germany to concentrate on Russia.  It would still be a hard fight but the ability to concentrate their troops on one front and the use of tactical nukes would have made the end of the war a forgone conclusion.

If Hitler had been semi-competent Europe could have ended up under a permanent Nazi state.  Thank God this didn't happen in real life.

[Bo]

They never had a freakin chance, you cant fight a war on 3 different fronts, against 3 of the worlds superpowers, and the worlds largest industrial producer and expect to win.

The Nazis could have tried much harder to keep the U.S. and the U.S.S.R. out of the conflict. Heck, they could have even formed an alliance with the U.S.S.R.

[Proud Lieberal from Northeast]

They never had a freakin chance, you cant fight a war on 3 different fronts, against 3 of the worlds superpowers, and the worlds largest industrial producer and expect to win.

The Nazis could have tried much harder to keep the U.S. and the U.S.S.R. out of the conflict. Heck, they could have even formed an alliance with the U.S.S.R.

They had a semi-alliance from 1939 to 1941

[Bo]

They never had a freakin chance, you cant fight a war on 3 different fronts, against 3 of the worlds superpowers, and the worlds largest industrial producer and expect to win.

The Nazis could have tried much harder to keep the U.S. and the U.S.S.R. out of the conflict. Heck, they could have even formed an alliance with the U.S.S.R.

They had a semi-alliance from 1939 to 1941

They could have formed a stronger, real alliance. Also, the Nazis obviously shouldn't have broken that semi-alliance if they wanted to win the war.

[N.i.K.]

They could have formed a stronger, real alliance. Also, the Nazis obviously shouldn't have broken that semi-alliance if they wanted to win the war.

It never would have worked out in the end. The ideological disparity was so large, and so fierce, that war was inevitable if not hard to avoid. Hitler desired Soviet land for his "living space." That makes it quite hard for any meaningful alliance to be formed, let alone a true nonagression pact.

[Bo]

They could have formed a stronger, real alliance. Also, the Nazis obviously shouldn't have broken that semi-alliance if they wanted to win the war.

It never would have worked out in the end. The ideological disparity was so large, and so fierce, that war was inevitable if not hard to avoid. Hitler desired Soviet land for his "living space." That makes it quite hard for any meaningful alliance to be formed, let alone a true nonagression pact.

Hitler and Stalin were both oppressive genocidal tyrants. That's enough common ground. And if Hitler really wanted to conquer the U.S.S.R., he should have invaded a month or two before he actually did. That way, he could have reached and conquered Moscow before winter-time.

[True Federalist]

And if Hitler really wanted to conquer the U.S.S.R., he should have invaded a month or two before he actually did. That way, he could have reached and conquered Moscow before winter-time.

Barbarossa was originally scheduled to begin on 15 May instead of 22 June.  A combination of factors prompted the delay.

[The Mikado]

Indeed.  Stronger-than-expected resistance in Greece and Yugoslavia (I believe were the two) pushed back the timetable a by over a month.