MA: Mideast Environmental Protection Incentives Act (Debating)

[Inks.LWC Supports Chuck Hagel]

Mideast Environmental Protection Incentives Act
1. Any public or private individual or organization in the Mideast Region that engages in environmentally friendly practices shall be subject to the following tax incentives:

• Exemption from taxes on property used to produce goods or services;
• Tax deductions on the cost of goods sold;
• Tax deductions on non-business expenses;
• Tax deductions on for losses on sale, exchange, or abandonment of business or non-business income producing assets;
  
• Tax deductions on the cost of goods sold.

2. The term "environmentally friendly practices" shall be defined as any action that works to preserve wildlife and natural resources, such as reforestation, safe and proper waste disposal, and irrigation methods that reduce the threat to surrounding wildlife.
3. The term "non-business expenses" shall be defined as any expense that is not incurred in relation to a business or an investment.

Sponsor: Oldiesfreak1854

[Inks.LWC Supports Chuck Hagel]

This seems to reward people with too much for doing too little.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

This seems to reward people with too much for doing too little.

What would you rather we did?  I'd be more than happy to amend the bill.

[Inks.LWC Supports Chuck Hagel]

I mean it just seems like if someone does one environmentally friendly thing, they can avoid their entire property taxes.  Surely that's not the intent of the bill?

[Oldiesfreak1854]

I mean it just seems like if someone does one environmentally friendly thing, they can avoid their entire property taxes.  Surely that's not the intent of the bill?

No; I guess I could amend it, but what would you suggest to improve the bill?

[Inks.LWC Supports Chuck Hagel]

I don't know.  I don't know what it is that you're trying to achieve with it.

[shua]

the basic problem here is that there's no specificity to it.

[Inks.LWC Supports Chuck Hagel]

the basic problem here is that there's no specificity to it.

Exactly.  And that's why I feel I can't help improve the bill.  I really don't know what direction he wants it to go in.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

I'll amend it:

Mideast Environmental Protection Incentives Act
1. Any public or private individual or organization in the Mideast Region that engages in environmentally friendly practices shall be subject to the following tax incentives:

• Exemption from taxes on property used to produce goods or services;
• Tax deductions on the cost of goods sold;
• Tax deductions on non-business expenses;
• Tax deductions on for losses on sale, exchange, or abandonment of business or non-business income producing assets;
  
• Tax deductions on the cost of goods sold.

2. In order to qualify for these incentives, organizations must consistently engage in three or more practices that are deemed environmentally friendly or safe for at least 120 days upon passage of this bill.
23. The term "environmentally friendly practices" shall be defined as any action that works to preserve wildlife and natural resources, such as reforestation, safe and proper waste disposal, and irrigation methods that reduce the threat to surrounding wildlife.
34. The term "non-business expenses" shall be defined as any expense that is not incurred in relation to a business or an investment.

Sponsor: Oldiesfreak1854
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[Inks.LWC Supports Chuck Hagel]

It still seems far too broad for me.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

It still seems far too broad for me.

I can amend it further, if you'd like, but could you please offer some ideas to make it better?

[Inks.LWC Supports Chuck Hagel]

It still seems far too broad for me.

I can amend it further, if you'd like, but could you please offer some ideas to make it better?

What exactly are "3 or more practices"?  Does that include putting a bottle recycle bin in the break room?  Does putting a recycling bin in the office for paper count as another?  It just seems like companies can do 3 minor things to get out of most of their taxes.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

It still seems far too broad for me.

I can amend it further, if you'd like, but could you please offer some ideas to make it better?

What exactly are "3 or more practices"?  Does that include putting a bottle recycle bin in the break room?  Does putting a recycling bin in the office for paper count as another?  It just seems like companies can do 3 minor things to get out of most of their taxes.

How do you think we could make it specific enough for you to support it?

[Inks.LWC Supports Chuck Hagel]

It still seems far too broad for me.

I can amend it further, if you'd like, but could you please offer some ideas to make it better?

What exactly are "3 or more practices"?  Does that include putting a bottle recycle bin in the break room?  Does putting a recycling bin in the office for paper count as another?  It just seems like companies can do 3 minor things to get out of most of their taxes.

How do you think we could make it specific enough for you to support it?

I don't know.  This is what I keep trying to tell you.  I don't know what it is that you want to accomplish with this bill.  Until I know what it is that you're trying to do with the bill, I can't help you.