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« Reply #25 on: March 08, 2010, 09:34:47 PM »

You don't need any rules. The Mideast does fine without them. The Northeast has rules, and they have plenty of issues. We don't want to be like the Northeast.
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« Reply #26 on: March 08, 2010, 09:56:28 PM »

Does anyone else have an opinion?
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« Reply #27 on: March 08, 2010, 09:57:55 PM »

You don't need any rules. The Mideast does fine without them. The Northeast has rules, and they have plenty of issues. We don't want to be like the Northeast.

Rules for the election of a Speaker is all that is really needed. The Mideast does have that.
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« Reply #28 on: March 08, 2010, 10:03:58 PM »

     Looks good. Two comments, though:

1) using the terms Legislator & Senator interchangeably without including a clause establishing that they are in fact interchangeable could cause confusion.

2) establishing rules on legislation, such as how long debate has to be open, how long various types of votes are open, &c. Probably should take care to establish a cloture requirement such that attaining cloture does not entail enough votes to override a veto, which would be difficult in such a small body. Maybe have two-thirds of Legislators plus the Lieutenant Governor voting in the affirmative to attain cloture.
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« Reply #29 on: March 08, 2010, 10:07:15 PM »

    Looks good. Two comments, though:

1) using the terms Legislator & Senator interchangeably without including a clause establishing that they are in fact interchangeable could cause confusion.

2) establishing rules on legislation, such as how long debate has to be open, how long various types of votes are open, &c. Probably should take care to establish a cloture requirement such that attaining cloture does not entail enough votes to override a veto, which would be difficult in such a small body. Maybe have two-thirds of Legislators plus the Lieutenant Governor voting in the affirmative to attain cloture.
I agree with these sentiments.

Also, I'd say the rules are all good, but that I don't really think Rule 2 is absolutely necessary.
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« Reply #30 on: March 09, 2010, 12:03:33 AM »

Southeast is one word, not two.

Since both our regional and federal legislatures are unicarmel and the federal legislature uses the term Senator, I would suggest ours use a different title for its members.
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« Reply #31 on: March 09, 2010, 07:14:56 AM »

    Looks good. Two comments, though:

1) using the terms Legislator & Senator interchangeably without including a clause establishing that they are in fact interchangeable could cause confusion.

2) establishing rules on legislation, such as how long debate has to be open, how long various types of votes are open, &c. Probably should take care to establish a cloture requirement such that attaining cloture does not entail enough votes to override a veto, which would be difficult in such a small body. Maybe have two-thirds of Legislators plus the Lieutenant Governor voting in the affirmative to attain cloture.

I changed the grammar mistakes in rule 3
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« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2010, 03:27:48 PM »

All right, i request a vote on standing rules 1-5.

Say Yay if you are for them, or Nay if you don't want them.
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« Reply #33 on: March 11, 2010, 03:32:14 PM »

Come on guys, let's get back on track.
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« Reply #34 on: March 11, 2010, 07:48:13 PM »

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« Reply #35 on: March 11, 2010, 07:55:10 PM »

     Yay
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« Reply #36 on: March 11, 2010, 09:17:25 PM »

Yay.
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« Reply #37 on: March 11, 2010, 09:56:06 PM »

Standing Rules 1-5 are approved unanimously , and will be sent to the governor.
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« Reply #38 on: March 11, 2010, 10:04:34 PM »

Standing Rules 1-5 are approved unanimously , and will be sent to the governor.

     Does it need to be sent to the governor? The Senate does not need amendments to the OSPR to be signed by the President.
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« Reply #39 on: March 11, 2010, 10:06:08 PM »
« Edited: March 12, 2010, 07:16:19 AM by SE Lt. Gov tb75 »

Standing Rules 1-5 are approved unanimously , and will be sent to the governor.

     Does it need to be sent to the governor? The Senate does not need amendments to the OSPR to be signed by the President.

From what i was told earlier, the governor has to either sign or veto these. I don't know.
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« Reply #40 on: March 11, 2010, 10:13:12 PM »
« Edited: March 11, 2010, 10:14:55 PM by SE Gov. JBrase »

Was the full thing passed or just an amendment?
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« Reply #41 on: March 11, 2010, 10:16:54 PM »

Standing Rules 1-5 are approved unanimously , and will be sent to the governor.

     Does it need to be sent to the governor? The Senate does not need amendments to the OSPR to be signed by the President.

From what i was told earlier, the governor has to either sign or veto theses. I don't know.

     I don't particularly mind either way, though it might become a point of contention should he at some point veto an amendment to the standing rules.
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« Reply #42 on: March 12, 2010, 12:13:29 AM »

It must be signed by the governor because your regional constitution doesn't provide for the Legislature's ability to make its own rules, as does the federal constitution. So this must be legislation.
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« Reply #43 on: March 12, 2010, 12:17:14 AM »

It must be signed by the governor because your regional constitution doesn't provide for the Legislature's ability to make its own rules, as does the federal constitution. So this must be legislation.

     Alright, I see now.
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« Reply #44 on: March 12, 2010, 07:17:08 AM »

Was the full thing passed or just an amendment?

It's rules 1-5 Mr. Governor. I guess you can consider it an amendment.
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« Reply #45 on: March 12, 2010, 07:43:33 AM »

It must be signed by the governor because your regional constitution doesn't provide for the Legislature's ability to make its own rules, as does the federal constitution. So this must be legislation.
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« Reply #46 on: March 12, 2010, 07:17:19 PM »

     Introduced on the behalf of the Governor:

Fair Voting Requirements Act

1. Voters removed by the HAEV will still be eligible to vote in Southeast regional elections.

2. Voting and office holding restrictions shall not apply at the regional level elections and referendums.

3. An office known as the Region Clerk shall be created.
3a. A Southeast Voting roll shall be created, independent of the SoFA, kept up to date by the Region Clerk.
3b. The Region Clerk shall be appointed by the Governor at the begining of each of the Governor's term and shall serve two month terms.
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« Reply #47 on: March 12, 2010, 07:19:17 PM »

^^^^^^^

Hooray for freedom!
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« Reply #48 on: March 12, 2010, 07:21:00 PM »

     Looks good, though I think that the Region Clerk should serve for as long as he wishes, unless the Governor decides to replace him. Seems like doing it that way would cut down on formalities.
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« Reply #49 on: March 12, 2010, 07:26:05 PM »

Self Defense Act

1. The Dirty South shall protect the right of any citizen to use lethal force to protect his life, liberty, or property.
2. The Dirty South shall prosecute any person who attempts to violate someone else's right to life, liberty, and property to the fullest extent of the law, regardless of the suspect's profession.
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