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« Reply #2775 on: July 02, 2012, 03:03:04 PM »

Sad to see you go, Yel.
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« Reply #2776 on: July 02, 2012, 03:42:00 PM »

Thanks for your outstanding service in the Legislature, Yelnoc.
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« Reply #2777 on: July 03, 2012, 04:10:10 AM »

I've known little of you, but thanks anyway for your service as speaker.
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« Reply #2778 on: July 03, 2012, 08:59:20 AM »

Course, every cloud has a silver lining. I'm back in the Legislature!
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« Reply #2779 on: July 03, 2012, 09:46:02 AM »

Yelnoc- I'm sorry to see you go... you've held this role since I joined this board and you've done very well...
     I would like to thank Yelnoc for his distinguished service to this region. Whatever you end up doing in life, you have my support.
Thanks for your outstanding service in the Legislature, Yelnoc.
I've known little of you, but thanks anyway for your service as speaker.
Thank all of you for the kind words.  I've enjoyed the past two years here, but it's time for me to move on.  I look forward too seeing where you guys take this region; don't let me down! Wink

Though I'm no longer a member of this body, for the record, you are confirmed as Imperial Speaker by acclamation.  Cary the office with dignity, Jbrase, and good luck.
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« Reply #2780 on: July 03, 2012, 11:16:17 AM »

Well I suppose we need to move along to new business now. Good luck yel, and Nym bless.

I bring to the floor:
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« Reply #2781 on: July 03, 2012, 11:33:38 AM »

I oppose this bill as an attack on the liberties of legislators to exercise personal choice in how they conduct themselves.
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« Reply #2782 on: July 03, 2012, 12:52:03 PM »

I oppose the linking requirement, mainly because I'm not sure how to do that.
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« Reply #2783 on: July 03, 2012, 03:27:00 PM »

     I agree with BritishDixie, these requirements of the conduct of Legislators are problematic. Maybe one of us should PM a monthly newsletter to the citizens of the region, unless they specifically ask not to be PMed.
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« Reply #2784 on: July 03, 2012, 03:46:22 PM »

I support cause, but they have a good point. Forcing people to do this seems going a bit far. If we remove the mandate in the law that people must do one of those then the bill becomes nothing more than a suggestion. I propose we voluntarily follow AndyGriffith's proposal, but not force it on anyone.
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« Reply #2785 on: July 03, 2012, 04:10:39 PM »

     Actually, this reminds me, I'm supposed to post notices of bills that pass on the regular board.
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« Reply #2786 on: July 03, 2012, 10:37:23 PM »

God forbid Legislators have any real requirements in regards to providing an actual service to this game. There is the fantasy aspect of Atlasia and there is also the real and strategic aspect of it, and it's a shame that some are neglecting the strategy.

Forum awareness and advertising are crucial to our region's success, considering how inactive it is currently. From what I gather, we've rebounded quite a bit in recent months but the initial problem with inactivity is still apparent. We're slightly more active than the Midwest but when you consider the difference in legislatures, we would probably be even less active than the Midwest if we too had a universal legislature. Honestly, how do the Imperialists expect to take over anything with 10 people?

There are requirements to serving in the Legislature and requirements imposed upon Legislators while serving. Your choice is made when you choose to accept the position as Legislator. If you miss 7 days of session, for example, you are automatically expelled.

Let's not also forget that the title in question is publicly bestowed and "forced" upon us by the very same legislature we represent:

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By simple interpretation of existing laws and definitions, we are already required to address and identify one another as Legislator. Our titles are bestowed by the public, and as such there is no guaranteed right for any Legislator to choose not to disclose their titles to the public that elected them. Some might argue that they can effectively "tell" people who they are and what titles they hold, but a forum only has two somewhat constant identifying traits: your name and your signature. They are the property of Dave, Nym and Atlasia, and only that.

As for the signature, you are not given any mandate as to the content, ideology or even region that you advertise. It is a non-partisan proposal that allows all IDS Legislators to passively advocate for increased involvement in this region. I'd hate to see the ensuing battle if I had actually submitted a bill advocating active recruitment on behalf of Legislators.

Oh, and it's just a game. So let's save the personal liberty argument for proposals dealing with more than five residents of the IDS and vote for activity!
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« Reply #2787 on: July 03, 2012, 10:38:17 PM »
« Edited: July 03, 2012, 10:50:18 PM by IDS Legislator SJoyceFla »

Forum awareness and advertising are crucial to our region's success, considering how inactive it is currently. From what I gather, we've rebounded quite a bit in recent months but the initial problem with inactivity is still apparent. We're slightly more active than the Midwest but when you consider the difference in legislatures, we would probably be even less active than the Midwest if we too had a universal legislature. Honestly, how do the Imperialists expect to take over anything with 10 people?

You forgot the Pacific, which has done in the last several weeks what professionals refer to as 'jack sh*t' Tongue

Seriously, though, I support this bill now that I know how to comply with it; there's no enforcement mechanism anyhow.
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« Reply #2788 on: July 03, 2012, 10:45:49 PM »

     None of the current requirements are enforced & this one probably won't be either. If it's what you folks want, then so be it. I just don't see much point in it.
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« Reply #2789 on: July 03, 2012, 11:14:58 PM »

Maybe if we changed the "72 hours after" to "prior to"?
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« Reply #2790 on: July 04, 2012, 08:57:57 AM »
« Edited: July 04, 2012, 04:53:04 PM by IDS Legislator SJoyceFla »

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That should change it enough to comply with the Court's ruling. Privately exchanged, previously existing, etc.
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« Reply #2791 on: July 04, 2012, 11:45:29 AM »

Adam, do you accept these changes?
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« Reply #2792 on: July 04, 2012, 02:02:50 PM »

     I would like to thank Jbrase for his work in defending the laws of the region against federal aggression. I take it SJoyceFla is volunteering to defend the region this time? Tongue
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« Reply #2793 on: July 04, 2012, 02:23:24 PM »
« Edited: July 04, 2012, 02:40:58 PM by IDS Legislator SJoyceFla »

     I would like to thank Jbrase for his work in defending the laws of the region against federal aggression. I take it SJoyceFla is volunteering to defend the region this time? Tongue

Optimist: There should be no need to do that, as two of the things the court had an issue with (it not existing beforehand and it being publicly exchanged) are now absent.

Pessimist: I guess so. It may be modified enough to fit the ruling.
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« Reply #2794 on: July 04, 2012, 03:56:33 PM »
« Edited: July 04, 2012, 04:04:20 PM by IDS Legislator Griffin »


In spirit, but I offer an amendment to Section 1 that allows our most accomplished legislators to showcase their aptly-earned titles:

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« Reply #2795 on: July 04, 2012, 04:03:58 PM »
« Edited: July 04, 2012, 04:29:58 PM by IDS Legislator SJoyceFla »

One more thing...

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« Reply #2796 on: July 04, 2012, 04:42:53 PM »

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^As a concerned citizen, I would suggest the following ammendment just for clarity's sake.

This bill will be an important step forward for all IDS residents wishing to trade in decorative stamped metals. I urge everyone to support it. Cheesy
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« Reply #2797 on: July 04, 2012, 04:53:18 PM »

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^As a concerned citizen, I would suggest the following ammendment just for clarity's sake.

This bill will be an important step forward for all IDS residents wishing to trade in decorative stamped metals. I urge everyone to support it. Cheesy

Amended!
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« Reply #2798 on: July 04, 2012, 04:59:45 PM »

I oppose any attempts to force legislatures to list links/banners in their signatures or change their usernames. Any legislature is free to do as they wish, but it isn't the government's job to mandate it. I've always changed my name to my corresponding office and I might change my current name to my office, but no law should be passed requiring me to do so.

And I promise to break any law passed that requires me to put banners/links in my signature, so we may as well amend to establish a fine of sorts for those refusing to follow rules.
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« Reply #2799 on: July 05, 2012, 04:41:57 PM »

Vote time

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