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« Reply #3625 on: January 17, 2013, 04:21:03 PM »
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BK has said he is going to resign? How disappointing. He promised me he would be active too!

     I believe that he means Ben Kenobi, not Bacon King. I would also like to say that I agree with Zanas here; resigning Legislators should be replaced by people with similar political persuasions. I am waiting until after this weekend's election to appoint Kenobi's replacement, so I know who is available.
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« Reply #3626 on: January 17, 2013, 04:30:29 PM »

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Let's also be clear - you were imputing motive where none existed. I was under no obligation to resign. I chose to resign - after winning both elections fair and square. I've given my reasons. I've said my piece.

Why did you say that "Someone tried to win me over to return"? You were imputing motive that I intended to stay in as speaker, after resigning my seat, when there was zero evidence of such.

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As always, self-serving lies. You were shocked when you lost. To me of all people. Smiley

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I challenge you to prove your lies about 'me being forced out'. Smiley
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« Reply #3627 on: January 17, 2013, 04:34:25 PM »

Since SJoyce gets to choose his replacement. I choose mine - Velasco.

You going to veto that as well, PiT?
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« Reply #3628 on: January 17, 2013, 04:44:59 PM »

     The People elected a Federalist to one of the two seats that were up last month, so they'll get a Federalist to replace him. I'm thinking either jerryarkansas or Dereich if one of them loses. Rockefeller is also a person of interest.

     Besides, I don't think I ever spoke with SJoyce about his replacement. I chose jerryarkansas because he was someone who wanted the job. He ran for the office, and when the vacancy materialized he was the only one to PM me about it. I certainly don't need a candidacy or a PM to consider someone, but it helps their case.
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« Reply #3629 on: January 17, 2013, 05:12:36 PM »

Since SJoyce gets to choose his replacement. I choose mine - Velasco.

You going to veto that as well, PiT?

Thanks for choosing me, but I suppose that it makes sense if PiT chooses a Fed.
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« Reply #3630 on: January 17, 2013, 05:22:08 PM »

Velasco had more votes than Jerry. It's time for him to get a shot.

Good luck Velasco! :b:
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« Reply #3631 on: January 17, 2013, 05:25:04 PM »

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Then you lied to me about that as well. Interesting.

What else have you been lying to me about, PiT?

Wow. No wonder I got screwed over. Sad
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« Reply #3632 on: January 17, 2013, 08:08:55 PM »

Besides, I don't think I ever spoke with SJoyce about his replacement.

^I remember this. I was talking to Dereich on IRC: he had mentioned that he wanted to get involved in Atlasia, and I told him that I had just vacated my seat, and that I could PM PiT to let him know Dereich was interested in the job, but when I had pulled up Atlasia Jerry had already been appointed. I wasn't involved.
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« Reply #3633 on: January 17, 2013, 08:14:21 PM »

This whole thing has become uglier than it should be. I think a Fed should replace Ben Kenobi because The People elected a Fed to his seat. I know Ben chose Vel out of spite, which is a shame he is being a child about this whole thing, but that's life.
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« Reply #3634 on: January 18, 2013, 08:19:10 AM »

I appreciate Ben's esteem towards my person, but the so-called emperor has the prerogative of nominating the substitutes when there are vacancies in the Legislature. Personally I'd prefer by-elections than personal appointments. On the other hand, if I have to be a part of this body some day, I prefer winning an election in my own right.

By the way, I had got more votes than BK and jerryarkansas, but i was defeated because the tiebreaker used between these two were the second preferences. More than a half of BK's second preferences were voters that put me in the first place. Ironic, isn't it? Regardless these facts, I accepted the result because that's the electoral legislation in force and I will accept whoever PiT wants to appoint to the Legislature.
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« Reply #3635 on: January 18, 2013, 09:41:18 AM »

Let's also be clear - you were imputing motive where none existed. I was under no obligation to resign. I chose to resign - after winning both elections fair and square. I've given my reasons. I've said my piece.

When you say, "I resign", it's pretty straightforward. From that point forward, neither context nor motive really matter; you've relinquished your office.

Why did you say that "Someone tried to win me over to return"? You were imputing motive that I intended to stay in as speaker, after resigning my seat, when there was zero evidence of such.

I never said that. Freudian slip?

As always, self-serving lies. You were shocked when you lost. To me of all people. Smiley

I wasn't shocked - barely aware would have been a better term. I did know that Bacon King had went MIA though, so it's simple math, really.

I challenge you to prove your lies about 'me being forced out'. Smiley

I never said that. Freudian slip?
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« Reply #3636 on: January 18, 2013, 04:44:54 PM »

I wouldn't worry about it. Ben seems to read things the way he wishes to read them and takes gross offense to anyone who doesn't agree with him. In his eyes, we are all liars, frauds and fakes. But it's OK. I have done ok in my career being one. Cheesy
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« Reply #3637 on: January 21, 2013, 12:34:54 AM »

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You claimed, entirely without foundation, that I intended to relinquish one office while retaining the other. I suppose that fits the narrative of me being motivated by pure hatred. Smiley

You also claimed that this was motivated by "earnest requests for me to come back", and call stuff back, which was also 100 percent false.

So you wish to continue digging the hole deeper.

Anyways, I've made my wishes clear - the fairest choice for my replacement is Velasco. I'm not sure why Duke is disputing this.
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« Reply #3638 on: January 22, 2013, 08:16:24 PM »

So I'm back. Sorry for the absence. Smiley
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« Reply #3639 on: January 22, 2013, 08:30:48 PM »

It's a great day for The People and for the South!
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« Reply #3640 on: January 22, 2013, 09:58:15 PM »

So...what happens now?
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« Reply #3641 on: January 22, 2013, 10:04:57 PM »

Has the new session begun yet? We need to elect a speaker before we can really move forward.
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« Reply #3642 on: January 23, 2013, 10:35:17 AM »

Well, the hell with that, since I've been re-elected with 50% of votes, including BenKenobi's one, it must kind of mean that the People of this region appreciate my political value in this Legislature, so I'll be candidate for the office of Speaker !

(cheering crowds, fainting ladies.)
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« Reply #3643 on: January 24, 2013, 05:18:36 AM »

Well, glad to see so much enthusiasm ! Wink

So, as of now, we have the following Legislators in office :
Class A : Dereich, Duke, Zanas
Class B : BaconKing, [vacant]

We discovered that the office of Speaker could be :
-held by non Legislators
-co-held by two Legislators in case of a tied vote
-from which we can infer, I guess, that it can be co-held by a Legislator and a non-Legislator in case of a tied vote between those two

We need to get to debate legislation again. I have full confidence that the Emperor will appoint someone valuable to the vacant Class B seat.

Is there a provision of some sort that makes it mandatory to discuss the vetoed bill on taxation first ? Or does this bill return to the roll of Legislation introduction in last rank ? Anyway, where is this damn roll ?

We have the ill-named "SE House legislation introduction Thread", but we really need to have some kind of Speaker Office where we maintain at all times a docket of the bills pending debate. If you elect me as Speaker, I'll try my best to make this work.

From what I can gather, these pieces of legislation are still pending :
-Parks We Can Be Proud Of Act
-"Clean Power Act"
-"Congressional Elections Act"
-Annexation of the states of Coahila and Tamaulipas - the War vs the Drug Cartels"
-The Clean Government Act of 2013
- and the Abolition of Income Tax Act after the Emperor's veto

unless we passed some of them while I was sleeping in early afternoon, digesting the wonderful meals cooked by Andrew, the Legislature Restaurant's chef.

We really really need to have something more intuitive, a more user-friendly interface, citizen-friendly being a better term for it.
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« Reply #3644 on: January 24, 2013, 06:31:59 AM »

DOCKET A:
-BACON KING'S EMERGENCY FIXER-UPPER AMENDMENT!
-Clean Government Act
-Parks Bill
-Clean Power Act
-Congressional Elections Act
-Annexation of the states of Coahila and Tamaulipas

-Abolition of Income Tax Act: Vetoed
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« Reply #3645 on: January 24, 2013, 07:49:43 AM »

DOCKET A:
-BACON KING'S EMERGENCY FIXER-UPPER AMENDMENT!
I was sure we had voted on that one.

Also, is there a docket B ?
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« Reply #3646 on: January 24, 2013, 09:07:30 AM »

DOCKET A:
-Annexation of the states of Coahila and Tamaulipas

Please, lordships, if you are going to discuss that ridiculous motion, at least write the name of the Mexican state correctly. It's Coahuila, not Coahila. Thank you.
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« Reply #3647 on: January 24, 2013, 09:09:32 AM »

The worst part is I knew that, but I just copied and pasted without paying attention.
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« Reply #3648 on: January 24, 2013, 11:06:30 AM »

DOCKET A:
-BACON KING'S EMERGENCY FIXER-UPPER AMENDMENT!
I was sure we had voted on that one.

Also, is there a docket B ?

It's Docket A because it was my proposal; nobody opposed it, so it just became the Docket. We ne'er voted on the Amendment, in here or as a region wide vote.
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« Reply #3649 on: January 24, 2013, 01:33:33 PM »

What a jumbled concoction this Legislature is!

DOCKET A:
-Annexation of the states of Coahila and Tamaulipas

Please, lordships, if you are going to discuss that ridiculous motion, at least write the name of the Mexican state correctly. It's Coahuila, not Coahila. Thank you.

It was my understanding that any piece of legislation that is proposed and not brought to the floor prior to a Legislator's departure is removed from the queue - unless another Legislature and/or two citizens sponsor it.

Also - assuming a healthy amount of activity can be maintained - I fully support Zanas' bid for Speaker. He currently is the second most senior Legislator (with the exception of The People, of course) and has as much legislative time served as I did upon becoming Co-Speaker.
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