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« Reply #375 on: June 21, 2010, 07:41:57 pm »
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     It seems like we have a solid core of me & Deldem, but finding a third person to complete the Legislature is proving rather difficult. I suppose it is just as well that the order of the Legislature does not become too entrenched.

Well that didn't last long. Maybe you should auction the third seat on Ebay. 

     Or the Governor could appoint Giovanni, who is evidently interested.
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« Reply #376 on: June 21, 2010, 08:33:09 pm »
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     It seems like we have a solid core of me & Deldem, but finding a third person to complete the Legislature is proving rather difficult. I suppose it is just as well that the order of the Legislature does not become too entrenched.

Well that didn't last long. Maybe you should auction the third seat on Ebay. 
Only if the money goes to charity.
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« Reply #377 on: June 21, 2010, 09:42:19 pm »
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We just need to find a third member who will actually perform well. I would have but i like my current job.
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« Reply #378 on: June 23, 2010, 03:59:39 pm »
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We really do need to get started.
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« Reply #379 on: June 23, 2010, 04:42:09 pm »
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Initiatives were better Sad
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« Reply #380 on: June 23, 2010, 05:34:46 pm »
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     I introduced this bill:

     Re-wrote it to try to address the concerns of my colleague Ernest. Credit still goes to Lt. Governor tb75 for thinking up the idea.

Pornography Leniency Bill

1. The Pornography Restrictions Initiative is hereby repealed.

2a. No person under the age of 18 years may distribute pornographic images or videos of oneself for profit or other valuable consideration, under penalty of four to six months incarceration and a fine of no more than $3000.

2b. No person may receive pornographic images or video of a person under the age of 18 years in exchange for money or other valuable consideration, under penalty of five to fifteen years incarceration and a fine of $100000.

3. No person may distribute pornographic images or video of a person under the age of 18 years other than oneself, under penalty of ten to twenty years incarceration and a fine of $150000.

4. No person may create pornographic images or video of a person under the age of 18 years other than oneself, under penalty of fifteen to twenty-five years incarceration and a fine of $200000.

5. No person may be charged with a crime under this law who may also be charged with a crime under the Anti-Opebo Act.

     It occurred to me recently that given the inclusion of the new section 5, we might want to revise down the punishments. That way we would have a two-tiered system, where creating or distributing pornographic images of a person who is 16 or 17 is a fairly serious crime while doing the same of a person under 16 is a very serious crime.
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« Reply #381 on: June 24, 2010, 12:00:31 am »
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     I introduced this bill:

     Re-wrote it to try to address the concerns of my colleague Ernest. Credit still goes to Lt. Governor tb75 for thinking up the idea.

Pornography Leniency Bill

1. The Pornography Restrictions Initiative is hereby repealed.

2a. No person under the age of 18 years may distribute pornographic images or videos of oneself for profit or other valuable consideration, under penalty of four to six months incarceration and a fine of no more than $3000.

2b. No person may receive pornographic images or video of a person under the age of 18 years in exchange for money or other valuable consideration, under penalty of five to fifteen years incarceration and a fine of $100000.

3. No person may distribute pornographic images or video of a person under the age of 18 years other than oneself, under penalty of ten to twenty years incarceration and a fine of $150000.

4. No person may create pornographic images or video of a person under the age of 18 years other than oneself, under penalty of fifteen to twenty-five years incarceration and a fine of $200000.

5. No person may be charged with a crime under this law who may also be charged with a crime under the Anti-Opebo Act.

     It occurred to me recently that given the inclusion of the new section 5, we might want to revise down the punishments. That way we would have a two-tiered system, where creating or distributing pornographic images of a person who is 16 or 17 is a fairly serious crime while doing the same of a person under 16 is a very serious crime.
I think I can support this. I like the idea of tiers.
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« Reply #382 on: June 24, 2010, 12:24:19 am »
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I hope the Southeast Legislature will consider taking up the ConCon resolution that my administration-in-waiting has proposed.
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« Reply #383 on: June 24, 2010, 12:26:21 am »
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     I introduced this bill:

     Re-wrote it to try to address the concerns of my colleague Ernest. Credit still goes to Lt. Governor tb75 for thinking up the idea.

Pornography Leniency Bill

1. The Pornography Restrictions Initiative is hereby repealed.

2a. No person under the age of 18 years may distribute pornographic images or videos of oneself for profit or other valuable consideration, under penalty of four to six months incarceration and a fine of no more than $3000.

2b. No person may receive pornographic images or video of a person under the age of 18 years in exchange for money or other valuable consideration, under penalty of five to fifteen years incarceration and a fine of $100000.

3. No person may distribute pornographic images or video of a person under the age of 18 years other than oneself, under penalty of ten to twenty years incarceration and a fine of $150000.

4. No person may create pornographic images or video of a person under the age of 18 years other than oneself, under penalty of fifteen to twenty-five years incarceration and a fine of $200000.

5. No person may be charged with a crime under this law who may also be charged with a crime under the Anti-Opebo Act.

     It occurred to me recently that given the inclusion of the new section 5, we might want to revise down the punishments. That way we would have a two-tiered system, where creating or distributing pornographic images of a person who is 16 or 17 is a fairly serious crime while doing the same of a person under 16 is a very serious crime.
I think I can support this. I like the idea of tiers.

     So I suppose the question is, what would be a good punishment to set for the lower tier? I'd go with 60% of minimum prison time, 40% of maximum prison time, & 50% of fine, but I do not want to make such a decision unilaterally.

     For that matter, I would also like to make the fine for the lower tier a maximum, because I think that setting an exact fine amount places an unnecessary limit on judicial discretion.
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« Reply #384 on: June 24, 2010, 12:36:30 am »
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I hope the Southeast Legislature will consider taking up the ConCon resolution that my administration-in-waiting has proposed.

     I figure it would be a good idea to try it again, especially with the huge number of amendments added on to the Constitution in what seems like a rather ad hoc fashion. Not to mention that third time's the charm, eh? Wink
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« Reply #385 on: June 24, 2010, 12:50:26 am »
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I hope the Southeast Legislature will consider taking up the ConCon resolution that my administration-in-waiting has proposed.

     I figure it would be a good idea to try it again, especially with the huge number of amendments added on to the Constitution in what seems like a rather ad hoc fashion. Not to mention that third time's the charm, eh? Wink

I hope this will be a much more limited convention specifically for the purposes laid out in the campaign. This will not be a convention to reinvent the game, but rather, I hope it will give us a chance to quickly and efficiently clean up the game.
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« Reply #386 on: June 25, 2010, 03:30:31 pm »
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     Here is my proposed amendment. Thoughts, colleagues?

Pornography Leniency Bill

1. The Pornography Restrictions Initiative is hereby repealed.

2a. No person under the age of 18 years may distribute pornographic images or videos of oneself for profit or other valuable consideration, under penalty of four to six months incarceration and a fine of no more than $3000.

2b. No person may receive pornographic images or video of a person under the age of 18 years in exchange for money or other valuable consideration, under penalty of three to six years incarceration and a fine of no more than $50000.

3. No person may distribute pornographic images or video of a person under the age of 18 years other than oneself, under penalty of six to twelve years incarceration and a fine of no more than $75000.

4. No person may create pornographic images or video of a person under the age of 18 years other than oneself, under penalty of eight to sixteen years incarceration and a fine of no more than $100000.

5. No person may be charged with a crime under this law who may also be charged with a crime under the Anti-Opebo Act.
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« Reply #387 on: June 25, 2010, 05:52:29 pm »
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     Here is my proposed amendment. Thoughts, colleagues?

Pornography Leniency Bill

1. The Pornography Restrictions Initiative is hereby repealed.

2a. No person under the age of 18 years may distribute pornographic images or videos of oneself for profit or other valuable consideration, under penalty of four to six months incarceration and a fine of no more than $3000.

2b. No person may receive pornographic images or video of a person under the age of 18 years in exchange for money or other valuable consideration, under penalty of three to six years incarceration and a fine of no more than $50000.

3. No person may distribute pornographic images or video of a person under the age of 18 years other than oneself, under penalty of six to twelve years incarceration and a fine of no more than $75000.

4. No person may create pornographic images or video of a person under the age of 18 years other than oneself, under penalty of eight to sixteen years incarceration and a fine of no more than $100000.

5. No person may be charged with a crime under this law who may also be charged with a crime under the Anti-Opebo Act.


Sounds good, even though i prefer 16 to be the age.
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« Reply #388 on: June 25, 2010, 06:15:57 pm »
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     Here is my proposed amendment. Thoughts, colleagues?

Pornography Leniency Bill

1. The Pornography Restrictions Initiative is hereby repealed.

2a. No person under the age of 18 years may distribute pornographic images or videos of oneself for profit or other valuable consideration, under penalty of four to six months incarceration and a fine of no more than $3000.

2b. No person may receive pornographic images or video of a person under the age of 18 years in exchange for money or other valuable consideration, under penalty of three to six years incarceration and a fine of no more than $50000.

3. No person may distribute pornographic images or video of a person under the age of 18 years other than oneself, under penalty of six to twelve years incarceration and a fine of no more than $75000.

4. No person may create pornographic images or video of a person under the age of 18 years other than oneself, under penalty of eight to sixteen years incarceration and a fine of no more than $100000.

5. No person may be charged with a crime under this law who may also be charged with a crime under the Anti-Opebo Act.


Sounds good, even though i prefer 16 to be the age.

     Well there wasn't much support for reducing the age to 16, so I decided that as a compromise we could reduce the punishments for creating or distributing pornographic images of somebody who is 16 or 17. Also notice that I specified a fine of no more than $x rather than exactly $x. This would help increase judicial discretion.
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« Reply #389 on: June 26, 2010, 11:37:06 pm »
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I can support this as amended.
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« Reply #390 on: June 27, 2010, 09:25:36 pm »
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The Bill/Admendment is up for vote
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« Reply #391 on: June 27, 2010, 09:51:26 pm »
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     Aye on both.
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« Reply #392 on: June 28, 2010, 02:10:40 am »
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Aye to both bill and amendment.
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« Reply #393 on: June 28, 2010, 05:47:03 pm »
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Aye on the bill and the amendment.
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« Reply #394 on: June 29, 2010, 03:07:43 pm »
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The Bill and Amendment is approved and is ready for either the signature or Veto of the Governor
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« Reply #395 on: June 29, 2010, 11:39:36 pm »
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Just so you guys know, my activity will be pretty sparse in the next 2 weeks. I will be on a family vacation for that time frame, and I don't know how often I'll be on. I should be returning late on the 13th of July.
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« Reply #396 on: June 29, 2010, 11:43:38 pm »
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Just so you guys know, my activity will be pretty sparse in the next 2 weeks. I will be on a family vacation for that time frame, and I don't know how often I'll be on. I should be returning late on the 13th of July.

     Hey, that's my birthday. Smiley

     Anyway, thanks for letting us know. Giovanni's recent appointment is fortunate, because we'll be able to continue business through that period.
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« Reply #397 on: June 29, 2010, 11:45:52 pm »
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Pornography Leniency Bill

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« Reply #398 on: June 30, 2010, 03:01:37 pm »
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The Accountable Military Bill i sup for debate for 24 hours. Here is the bill in it's entirety.

Accountable Military Bill

1. Should the Southeast Militia be committed to action by executive order, except in response to a direct attack by a hostile force, it shall be the right of the citizens to petition for a referendum on the matter.

2. Should the petition gain the signatures of three registered citizens of the Southeast, a voting booth on the referendum shall be opened within fourty-eight hours to remain open for seventy-two hours, unless the Southeast Militia is recalled from the action in question within that time.

3. Should a majority of citizens who vote on the referendum vote in favor of recalling the Southeast Militia from the action in question, then the Southeast Militia shall be immediately recalled, with the withdrawal completed within two weeks of the closing of the voting booth on the matter in question.
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« Reply #399 on: June 30, 2010, 03:08:16 pm »
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     Actually, let's address the petition for a Constituional Convention first. Since that is a matter of national importance, I think we should give it higher priority.
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