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« Reply #350 on: June 10, 2010, 05:04:50 PM »

     Looking at it some more, 1.5 & 1.6 seem redundant. I think we could just refer to the punishment in 1.3. Additionally, funding of police agencies is a local affair & should only be punished by the fine. However, if we have a regional police agency then I think that it would make sense to punish them by depriving them of their funding.

     Furthermore, 1.4 should specify how much jail time. I'd suggest 6 months to a year for negligent failure to report & 4 years to 10 years for intentional failure to report. I would like to hear from my colleagues as well as the Lt. Governor on all of these issues, at any rate.

Nah, not that big of a deal, I just miss initiatives. In fact, I think I might propose a few myself just for old time's sakes.

Oh, and btw, on the sexual crimes law, that list of definitions should probably match the wording of the Georgia Code 16-6 offenses, for what it's worth. We do use the Georgia code where our own law doesn't supersede it.

     It might be interesting to hold informal referenda on the Legislature's actions to see what the general public (both Southeastern & non-Southeastern) thinks of our actions. Abysmal turnout would probably lead to it showing that the in-region voters always agree with us, though. Tongue

     I'll look it up & propose an amendment based on it. I should get around to it later today.
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« Reply #351 on: June 10, 2010, 05:08:32 PM »

    Looking at it some more, 1.5 & 1.6 seem redundant. I think we could just refer to the punishment in 1.3. Additionally, funding of police agencies is a local affair & should only be punished by the fine. However, if we have a regional police agency then I think that it would make sense to punish them by depriving them of their funding.

     Furthermore, 1.4 should specify how much jail time. I'd suggest 6 months to a year for negligent failure to report & 4 years to 10 years for intentional failure to report. I would like to hear from my colleagues as well as the Lt. Governor on all of these issues, at any rate.

Nah, not that big of a deal, I just miss initiatives. In fact, I think I might propose a few myself just for old time's sakes.

Oh, and btw, on the sexual crimes law, that list of definitions should probably match the wording of the Georgia Code 16-6 offenses, for what it's worth. We do use the Georgia code where our own law doesn't supersede it.

     It might be interesting to hold informal referenda on the Legislature's actions to see what the general public (both Southeastern & non-Southeastern) thinks of our actions. Abysmal turnout would probably lead to it showing that the in-region voters always agree with us, though. Tongue

     I'll look it up & propose an amendment based on it. I should get around to it later today.

The Jail Time sounds good
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« Reply #352 on: June 10, 2010, 05:09:35 PM »

Also, I'm editing the wiki to replace the mention in Article IV.2 of "Article II" with "Article IV", to match the Southeastern House of Representatives Amendment requirement of renumbering articles of the Constitution. Good thing that was included at the end, otherwise we'd never be able to amend the Constitution again Tongue
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« Reply #353 on: June 10, 2010, 05:11:07 PM »

Nah, not that big of a deal, I just miss initiatives. In fact, I think I might propose a few myself just for old time's sakes.

Oh, and btw, on the sexual crimes law, that list of definitions should probably match the wording of the Georgia Code 16-6 offenses, for what it's worth. We do use the Georgia code where our own law doesn't supersede it.

We should use it, but i don't agree with the child molestation laws. Child Molestors should have the 15, then life in prsison treatment.

Exactly. If you want to make sure that changes, then you need to use the exact terminology the existing code already uses, otherwise you're making up penalties for non-existent laws.
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« Reply #354 on: June 10, 2010, 05:13:05 PM »

Nah, not that big of a deal, I just miss initiatives. In fact, I think I might propose a few myself just for old time's sakes.

Oh, and btw, on the sexual crimes law, that list of definitions should probably match the wording of the Georgia Code 16-6 offenses, for what it's worth. We do use the Georgia code where our own law doesn't supersede it.

     It might be interesting to hold informal referenda on the Legislature's actions to see what the general public (both Southeastern & non-Southeastern) thinks of our actions. Abysmal turnout would probably lead to it showing that the in-region voters always agree with us, though. Tongue

     I'll look it up & propose an amendment based on it. I should get around to it later today.

I'm willing to bet most Southeasterners don't check this thread at all. See the latest election results, two candidates running? Tongue
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« Reply #355 on: June 10, 2010, 05:21:03 PM »

Nah, not that big of a deal, I just miss initiatives. In fact, I think I might propose a few myself just for old time's sakes.

Oh, and btw, on the sexual crimes law, that list of definitions should probably match the wording of the Georgia Code 16-6 offenses, for what it's worth. We do use the Georgia code where our own law doesn't supersede it.

We should use it, but i don't agree with the child molestation laws. Child Molestors should have the 15, then life in prsison treatment.

Exactly. If you want to make sure that changes, then you need to use the exact terminology the existing code already uses, otherwise you're making up penalties for non-existent laws.

Okay, i will use that then.
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« Reply #356 on: June 10, 2010, 08:32:50 PM »

Nah, not that big of a deal, I just miss initiatives. In fact, I think I might propose a few myself just for old time's sakes.

Oh, and btw, on the sexual crimes law, that list of definitions should probably match the wording of the Georgia Code 16-6 offenses, for what it's worth. We do use the Georgia code where our own law doesn't supersede it.

     It might be interesting to hold informal referenda on the Legislature's actions to see what the general public (both Southeastern & non-Southeastern) thinks of our actions. Abysmal turnout would probably lead to it showing that the in-region voters always agree with us, though. Tongue

     I'll look it up & propose an amendment based on it. I should get around to it later today.

I'm willing to bet most Southeasterners don't check this thread at all. See the latest election results, two candidates running? Tongue

     Which happens to be the problem with such a proposition. We'd probably get the Legislators, the Lt. Governor, the Governor, the Senator, & maybe somebody else to vote. If anything, it would be interesting to see what national perception is of the Legislature's actions.
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« Reply #357 on: June 10, 2010, 08:57:50 PM »

I've taken a look at Title 16 Chapter 6 of the Georgia Code, and frankly, before we pass a sexual offenses database law, we need to rewrite this chapter.  It's horribly out of date and contains some provisions that don't pass constitutional muster.
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« Reply #358 on: June 10, 2010, 10:44:57 PM »

We already have a sexual offender database law.  See Title 42 Chapter 1 Article 2 of the Georgia Code (Sections 42-1-12 thru 42-1-15).  I don't see anything this law does with respect to a database that the current law doesn't address in far more detail except add a one dollar surcharge to driver's licenses to fund it.
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« Reply #359 on: June 11, 2010, 10:35:42 AM »

We already have a sexual offender database law.  See Title 42 Chapter 1 Article 2 of the Georgia Code (Sections 42-1-12 thru 42-1-15).  I don't see anything this law does with respect to a database that the current law doesn't address in far more detail except add a one dollar surcharge to driver's licenses to fund it.

No we don't. There is one in real life, but that is the inspiration for this law
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« Reply #360 on: June 11, 2010, 11:59:58 AM »

We already have a sexual offender database law.  See Title 42 Chapter 1 Article 2 of the Georgia Code (Sections 42-1-12 thru 42-1-15).  I don't see anything this law does with respect to a database that the current law doesn't address in far more detail except add a one dollar surcharge to driver's licenses to fund it.

No we don't. There is one in real life, but that is the inspiration for this law

But don't we use the Georgia Code as our default law in the absence of any Southeast specific law?
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« Reply #361 on: June 11, 2010, 12:32:26 PM »

We already have a sexual offender database law.  See Title 42 Chapter 1 Article 2 of the Georgia Code (Sections 42-1-12 thru 42-1-15).  I don't see anything this law does with respect to a database that the current law doesn't address in far more detail except add a one dollar surcharge to driver's licenses to fund it.

No we don't. There is one in real life, but that is the inspiration for this law

But don't we use the Georgia Code as our default law in the absence of any Southeast specific law?

Yes, but this is what is going to replace it
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« Reply #362 on: June 11, 2010, 01:28:00 PM »

Frankly, I prefer the existing law, if for no other reason than rather than funding the database with $1 surcharge on my driver's license, it is funded by a $250 annual registration fee paid by each offender.
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« Reply #363 on: June 11, 2010, 02:57:15 PM »

     When was the existing law passed?
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« Reply #364 on: June 11, 2010, 03:22:07 PM »

     When was the existing law passed?

The existing Georgia law was originally passed in 1996, focusing only on those who committed sexual offenses against children, and then substantially modified in 2006 to include those who committed sexual offenses against adults as well.  As I recall, we use the Georgia Code 2006 as our baseline, tho I could only find the Georgia Code 2009 online.
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« Reply #365 on: June 11, 2010, 03:28:17 PM »

     When was the existing law passed?

The existing Georgia law was originally passed in 1996, focusing only on those who committed sexual offenses against children, and then substantially modified in 2006 to include those who committed sexual offenses against adults as well.  As I recall, we use the Georgia Code 2006 as our baseline, tho I could only find the Georgia Code 2009 online.

     Alright, I am content with the existing law & would like to withdraw the bill. Unfortunately, we don't have any bills in the pipeline currently. Sad
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« Reply #366 on: June 13, 2010, 03:21:22 PM »

With the election scheduled for June 18th, would you guys like to be on recess until next Monday?

The recess vote is open for 24 hours.
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« Reply #367 on: June 13, 2010, 03:26:32 PM »

     Our seats are not up for a vote in this election, but we don't have any legislation to discuss currently. I'm not sure it really matters whether we recess or not.

     Abstain.
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« Reply #368 on: June 13, 2010, 03:41:08 PM »

     Our seats are not up for a vote in this election, but we don't have any legislation to discuss currently. I'm not sure it really matters whether we recess or not.

     Abstain.

Well, The Governor and Lt. Governor are up for election. So i want to focus on re-election
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« Reply #369 on: June 13, 2010, 03:44:04 PM »

     Our seats are not up for a vote in this election, but we don't have any legislation to discuss currently. I'm not sure it really matters whether we recess or not.

     Abstain.

Well, The Governor and Lt. Governor are up for election. So i want to focus on re-election

     Ah, well that's fine. If a bill comes up, we could still organize some form of informal discussion of it.
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« Reply #370 on: June 13, 2010, 05:11:52 PM »

     Our seats are not up for a vote in this election, but we don't have any legislation to discuss currently. I'm not sure it really matters whether we recess or not.

     Abstain.

Well, The Governor and Lt. Governor are up for election. So i want to focus on re-election

     Ah, well that's fine. If a bill comes up, we could still organize some form of informal discussion of it.

We can do that
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« Reply #371 on: June 21, 2010, 06:57:56 PM »

I'm finding that I don't have the time I would like to devote to Fantasy Politics in general, let alone the position of Southeast Legislator. Since the Southeast deserve an active Legislature, I do hereby resign as Southeast Legislator, effective as of 1:61:56 CST 4 Messidor CCXVIII (i.e., sometime tomorrow in the French Republican Calendar).

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« Reply #372 on: June 21, 2010, 07:11:46 PM »

     It seems like we have a solid core of me & Deldem, but finding a third person to complete the Legislature is proving rather difficult. I suppose it is just as well that the order of the Legislature does not become too entrenched.
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« Reply #373 on: June 21, 2010, 07:14:13 PM »

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« Reply #374 on: June 21, 2010, 07:15:18 PM »

     It seems like we have a solid core of me & Deldem, but finding a third person to complete the Legislature is proving rather difficult. I suppose it is just as well that the order of the Legislature does not become too entrenched.

Well that didn't last long. Maybe you should auction the third seat on Ebay. 
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