The Imperial Dominion of the South's Legislature

[Deldem]

I support the Convention, both for consolidation and for the reboot.

My main reason? Since everything's already covered, all we can do is introduce minor bills/ideas- look at what we have to work with in the Legislature here. I'm glad that we passed all the laws that we did, and I think they're still interesting enough to work with, but I think having more material could make the Southeast, and Atlasia as a whole, more interesting.

[Fmr. Emperor PiT]

I support the Convention, both for consolidation and for the reboot.

My main reason? Since everything's already covered, all we can do is introduce minor bills/ideas- look at what we have to work with in the Legislature here. I'm glad that we passed all the laws that we did, and I think they're still interesting enough to work with, but I think having more material could make the Southeast, and Atlasia as a whole, more interesting.

     My problem with the reboot is that there are many issues for which a broad consensus already exists in Atlasia. I have given examples of legalizing marijuana & establishing free trade with Europe. I don't think it would do a service to upcoming Senates to have to deal with a large number of bills where the only real debate is on marginal details.

     Plenty of new bills can still be passed, but it requires a creative GM & creative legislators. Senator Libertas has proposed a handful of intriguing bills that offer something new, & I used one of them as the basis for a newly proposed bill today. The United States Senate & state legislatures across the U.S. manage to find new matters to deal with quickly enough that they do not need any sort of reboot, despite working at a much faster clip much of the time.

     If anything, a big reason for the Legislature's difficulty in maintaining a consistent level of discussion is that our role making laws for a sub-national entity rules out foreign policy as a subject of bills. The lack of real economic expertise also poses problems.

[President Mitt]

The Accountable Military Bill i sup for debate for 24 hours. Here is the bill in it's entirety.

Accountable Military Bill

1. Should the Southeast Militia be committed to action by executive order, except in response to a direct attack by a hostile force, it shall be the right of the citizens to petition for a referendum on the matter.

2. Should the petition gain the signatures of three registered citizens of the Southeast, a voting booth on the referendum shall be opened within fourty-eight hours to remain open for seventy-two hours, unless the Southeast Militia is recalled from the action in question within that time.

3. Should a majority of citizens who vote on the referendum vote in favor of recalling the Southeast Militia from the action in question, then the Southeast Militia shall be immediately recalled, with the withdrawal completed within two weeks of the closing of the voting booth on the matter in question.

SE Legislator Giovanni approves.


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An all out re-boot would probably not be such a great idea, all that would do is create a large number of bills that have really already been settled. What about maybe scaling back all the laws to what we have in real-time America?

[Marokai]

The consensus seems to be heading in the direction of simplifying our old statute, rather than scrapping everything completely, and Xahar and I have done a ton of work to that goal already: http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=119804.0

So please, don't let the idea of consolidating our statute scare you, it's not as bad as it sounds.

[Fmr. Emperor PiT]

The Accountable Military Bill i sup for debate for 24 hours. Here is the bill in it's entirety.

Accountable Military Bill

1. Should the Southeast Militia be committed to action by executive order, except in response to a direct attack by a hostile force, it shall be the right of the citizens to petition for a referendum on the matter.

2. Should the petition gain the signatures of three registered citizens of the Southeast, a voting booth on the referendum shall be opened within fourty-eight hours to remain open for seventy-two hours, unless the Southeast Militia is recalled from the action in question within that time.

3. Should a majority of citizens who vote on the referendum vote in favor of recalling the Southeast Militia from the action in question, then the Southeast Militia shall be immediately recalled, with the withdrawal completed within two weeks of the closing of the voting booth on the matter in question.

SE Legislator Giovanni approves.


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An all out re-boot would probably not be such a great idea, all that would do is create a large number of bills that have really already been settled. What about maybe scaling back all the laws to what we have in real-time America?

     How exactly would that be different from a re-boot? It sounds to me like basically the same idea (reset our laws). If you look at the examples I gave of settled issues, the United States government hasn't enacted similar policies.

[Fmr. Emperor PiT]

The consensus seems to be heading in the direction of simplifying our old statute, rather than scrapping everything completely, and Xahar and I have done a ton of work to that goal already: http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=119804.0

So please, don't let the idea of consolidating our statute scare you, it's not as bad as it sounds.

     I suppose I ought to clarify that I intend to support this petition, regardless of whatever direction the re-boot idea goes in, since there are plenty of other things that I think really should be addressed. I just think that it would be good to take the opportunity to have debate on the issue.

[Fmr. Emperor PiT]

     Ugh, the Legislature is slipping into inactivity. I suppose we should go to a final vote now.

[Deldem]

I know that the vote is not officially open yet, but just so you guys know, I vote Aye on the petition whenever comes up, since I don't know whether or not I'll be around when the vote officially opens up.

[tb78]

The vote is open

[Fmr. Emperor PiT]

     Aye

[Deldem]

I guess I am here.

Aye.

[Fmr. Emperor PiT]

     Achieved a quorum with only five hours to spare, eh? If this bill had failed on account of not achieving a quorum, I would have probably re-introduced it & used my Speaker powers to move it to the top slot. It is quite important that we get this done in a timely fashion.

[tb78]

The bill has passed and is ready for the Governor

[Jbrase]

The petition for ConCon and reboot

X JBrase

[Purple State]

The petition for ConCon and reboot

X JBrase

Thank you Governor and thanks to this Legislature for your speedy approval.

[Fmr. Emperor PiT]

     We're glad to be of service when it comes to making the oceans of Atlasian law a bit easier to navigate.

[Fmr. Emperor PiT]

     I think we ought to try to get moving again, so the Accountable Military Bill should be up next, as quoted here:

The Accountable Military Bill i sup for debate for 24 hours. Here is the bill in it's entirety.

Accountable Military Bill

1. Should the Southeast Militia be committed to action by executive order, except in response to a direct attack by a hostile force, it shall be the right of the citizens to petition for a referendum on the matter.

2. Should the petition gain the signatures of three registered citizens of the Southeast, a voting booth on the referendum shall be opened within fourty-eight hours to remain open for seventy-two hours, unless the Southeast Militia is recalled from the action in question within that time.

3. Should a majority of citizens who vote on the referendum vote in favor of recalling the Southeast Militia from the action in question, then the Southeast Militia shall be immediately recalled, with the withdrawal completed within two weeks of the closing of the voting booth on the matter in question.

[Fmr. Emperor PiT]

     I notice that my colleague Giovanni has not been online since July 3rd. This is a friendly reminder to everyone to give official notice if you are going to be offline for any extended period.

[Deldem]

I think I'm OK with the Accountable Military Bill.

I don't really see how it would come into play in practice though.

[tb78]

Do you guys want to vote or still debate it?

[Fmr. Emperor PiT]

I think I'm OK with the Accountable Military Bill.

I don't really see how it would come into play in practice though.

     Well there was the time when we passed the Suck It Pacific Act (or some title along those lines) & the Governor ordered the Militia to escort the prisoners to the Pacific. In a case like that, this would be useful. Granted it wouldn't come up often at all, but it would be nice to have it available just in case.

[Fmr. Emperor PiT]

Do you guys want to vote or still debate it?

     I am fine either way.

     It occurred to me though that the title of this bill might make it difficult for somebody to find it quickly in the regional statute. It would be helpful if it could be easily associated with extant law in regards to the regional militia. I would like to propose an amendment to change the title to the Southeast Militia Bill, & to accept that amendment as friendly.

[Deldem]

Do you guys want to vote or still debate it?

     I am fine either way.

     It occurred to me though that the title of this bill might make it difficult for somebody to find it quickly in the regional statute. It would be helpful if it could be easily associated with extant law in regards to the regional militia. I would like to propose an amendment to change the title to the Southeast Militia Bill, & to accept that amendment as friendly.

I concur. I think we're ready to vote, provided there's no more amending to be done.

[Fmr. Emperor PiT]

     Wow, I really spaced out there. I change the amendment to make it the Accountable Militia Bill.

[tb78]

The vote is open on the Militia Bill