The Imperial Dominion of the South's Legislature

[Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey]

You guys need to make The Imperial March your anthem.

[Jbrase]

You guys need to make The Imperial March your anthem.

This would be a better choice

[Fmr. Emperor PiT]

     Since there has been discussion in the legislation introduction thread about a new flag, I think that we should open a discussion on it here. What do my colleagues think? I personally like the large variation of Judicial Overlord Dibble's third suggestion, due to the starkness of the design.

[Χahar]

Lieutenant Governor should be Grand Moff.

[Deldem]

The flag is nice and evil, but we need some sort of villainous motto for it.

[Jbrase]

The flag is nice and evil, but we need some sort of villainous motto for it.

Cherish liberty. Destroy the Jedi.

[IDS Judicial Overlord John Dibble]

The flag is nice and evil, but we need some sort of villainous motto for it.

Cherish liberty. Destroy the Jedi.

Three things:

1. Villains don't tend to tout liberty, so I'm not sure it's villainous for our motto to contain "cherish liberty".
2. While I'm all for destroying the Jedi, I don't think the Imperial Dominion should overly reflect a singular evil philosophy. Destroying the Jedi is primarily a Sith goal. I think we need a motto that reflects a more generic evil sentiment.
3. The Jedi are technically a religion, albeit a highly misguided one, and as such I don't think having such a motto on our flag would be constitutional - you know, separation of church and state and whatnot.

[Χahar]

Having made a trip to Wookieepedia, I think that it ought to be the following:

Governor: Emperor
Lt. Governor: Shadow Hand
Speaker: Grand Moff
Assemblyman: Moff

[IDS Judicial Overlord John Dibble]

Having made a trip to Wookieepedia, I think that it out to be the following:

Governor: Emperor
Lt. Governor: Shadow Hand
Speaker: Grand Moff
Assemblyman: Moff

We've already done the names and passed the amendment, so we're not likely to change them again any time soon.

[Χahar]

Yeah, well, I'm not in the Southeast anyway. I'm doing this as a way to avoid doing the stuff I have to do.

[Fmr. Emperor PiT]

     Not to mention that I like being the Imperial Speaker. Grand Moff just doesn't sound as badass.

[Jbrase]

The flag is nice and evil, but we need some sort of villainous motto for it.

Cherish liberty. Destroy the Jedi.

Three things:

1. Villains don't tend to tout liberty, so I'm not sure it's villainous for our motto to contain "cherish liberty".
2. While I'm all for destroying the Jedi, I don't think the Imperial Dominion should overly reflect a singular evil philosophy. Destroying the Jedi is primarily a Sith goal. I think we need a motto that reflects a more generic evil sentiment.
3. The Jedi are technically a religion, albeit a highly misguided one, and as such I don't think having such a motto on our flag would be constitutional - you know, separation of church and state and whatnot.

How about a Vader quote "...Join us or Die..."

[IDS Judicial Overlord John Dibble]

The flag is nice and evil, but we need some sort of villainous motto for it.

Cherish liberty. Destroy the Jedi.

Three things:

1. Villains don't tend to tout liberty, so I'm not sure it's villainous for our motto to contain "cherish liberty".
2. While I'm all for destroying the Jedi, I don't think the Imperial Dominion should overly reflect a singular evil philosophy. Destroying the Jedi is primarily a Sith goal. I think we need a motto that reflects a more generic evil sentiment.
3. The Jedi are technically a religion, albeit a highly misguided one, and as such I don't think having such a motto on our flag would be constitutional - you know, separation of church and state and whatnot.

How about a Vader quote "...Join us or Die..."

Maybe, but again we're getting stuck on Star Wars. As the founder of the Atlasian Association for the Advancement of Evil People, I want the region to reflect a wide variety of types of evil.

Also, Vader is a bit problematic. Certainly he committed great atrocities in the name of the Dark Side of the Force, and that is to be commended, but we mustn't forget that he was weak. He betrayed and killed his master, not out of greed and desire to take his power for himself as any proper evil would do, but out of compassion! He turned to good at the end! Can you really say that he is a proper role model for the next generation which will inevitably betray us and seize power from us?

[Jbrase]

The flag is nice and evil, but we need some sort of villainous motto for it.

Cherish liberty. Destroy the Jedi.

Three things:

1. Villains don't tend to tout liberty, so I'm not sure it's villainous for our motto to contain "cherish liberty".
2. While I'm all for destroying the Jedi, I don't think the Imperial Dominion should overly reflect a singular evil philosophy. Destroying the Jedi is primarily a Sith goal. I think we need a motto that reflects a more generic evil sentiment.
3. The Jedi are technically a religion, albeit a highly misguided one, and as such I don't think having such a motto on our flag would be constitutional - you know, separation of church and state and whatnot.

How about a Vader quote "...Join us or Die..."

Maybe, but again we're getting stuck on Star Wars. As the founder of the Atlasian Association for the Advancement of Evil People, I want the region to reflect a wide variety of types of evil.

Also, Vader is a bit problematic. Certainly he committed great atrocities in the name of the Dark Side of the Force, and that is to be commended, but we mustn't forget that he was weak. He betrayed and killed his master, not out of greed and desire to take his power for himself as any proper evil would do, but out of compassion! He turned to good at the end! Can you really say that he is a proper role model for the next generation which will inevitably betray us and seize power from us?

True, you have any suggestions for an evil motto for the flag?

[IDS Judicial Overlord John Dibble]

True, you have any suggestions for an evil motto for the flag?

I'm thinking about them. I'll present a few candidates when I have some I'm happy with.

[IDS Judicial Overlord John Dibble]

Here's a few possibles.

“Hell is empty and all the devils are here.” - Shakespeare  (I particularly like this one)
“Hope is the worst of evils, for it prolongs the torment of man” - Friedrich Nietzsche
“Our greatest evil flows from ourselves” - Jean-Jacques Rousseau
"There is no good or evil: only power and those too weak to seek it." - J. K. Rowling

Also, we could just go with "Greed, Power, Corruption" or something of that nature.

[Yelnoc]

You have to remember that "Evil People" per se do not view themselves as such.  I like the Rowling quote the best.

How about "Wealth, Power, Happiness"?  With wealth being ill-gotten, power being total control, and happiness being the end-product of sadism?  Or maybe something Latin.

[Daniel Adams]

You have to remember that "Evil People" per se do not view themselves as such.  I like the Rowling quote the best.

How about "Wealth, Power, Happiness"?  With wealth being ill-gotten, power being total control, and happiness being the end-product of sadism?  Or maybe something Latin.

Carthago delenda est.

[Fmr. Emperor PiT]

     I agree with my colleague, Darth Yelnoc. One of the things that appealed to me about Star Wars Episode III: Revenge Of The Sith is that Palpatine argues for the Dark Side while rejecting the notion of it being evil. We should do the same & officially deny an absolute notion of evil.

[IDS Judicial Overlord John Dibble]

You have to remember that "Evil People" per se do not view themselves as such.

Only those who can't truly embrace evil don't recognize themselves as such. They are weak.

[Jbrase]

“Hell is empty and all the devils are here.” - Shakespeare  (I particularly like this one)

I like that one as well, but it lets add just 3 more teaspoons of evil, translate it into Latin.

Abyssus est cassus quod diabolus es hac

[IDS Judicial Overlord John Dibble]

“Hell is empty and all the devils are here.” - Shakespeare  (I particularly like this one)

I like that one as well, but it lets add just 3 more teaspoons of evil, translate it into Latin.

Abyssus est cassus quod diabolus es hac

I like it! I'll make a few versions of the proposed flags with this later.

[Jbrase]

“Hell is empty and all the devils are here.” - Shakespeare  (I particularly like this one)

I like that one as well, but it lets add just 3 more teaspoons of evil, translate it into Latin.

Abyssus est cassus quod diabolus es hac

I like it! I'll make a few versions of the proposed flags with this later.

Here is a version I made. I think the letters would look better in red, but for an uknown reason, MS paint would only allow black, white and gray.

[IDS Judicial Overlord John Dibble]

Here's a couple with red text. One with Daedric runes for the letters, and one with just a different font.

[Χahar]

Pretty sure that's not actual Latin.