The Imperial Dominion of the South's Legislature

[CLARENCE 2015!]

Well I sure as hell aint running....

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Since one & only one Legislator is interested in running, I will ask the Viceroy to, per tradition, declare Yelnoc the new speaker.

[Yelnoc]

Alright, what's next on the agenda?

Ehm...you did not run for election or declare that you were accepting write-ins. 

[Mr. Taft Republican]

Congrats Yelnoc, ya gets the job. It was a brutal process, blood sweat and tears, etc, etc. CONGRATS! ! You are now Imperial Speaker for the Imperial Dominion of the South's Legislature, carry yourself with dignity and bring pride to the office. Again.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Congratulations to Darth Yelnoc on reattaining the position of Imperial Speaker.

     I know that there is some uncertainty over the composition of the IDS Militia, & that there are plans to introduce a bill to rectify that. I don't know if it is ready yet, but if not then I have a bill that I would like a Darth to introduce.

[Yelnoc]

Congrats Yelnoc, ya gets the job. It was a brutal process, blood sweat and tears, etc, etc. CONGRATS! ! You are now Imperial Speaker for the Imperial Dominion of the South's Legislature, carry yourself with dignity and bring pride to the office. Again.

*bows*

[Yelnoc]

This is obviously a very skeletal bill which will need a lot of work before it is ready to be voted on.  So I will go ahead and introduce it now so we can get started.  Taft, since you can vote for the unoccupied seat, please feel free to contribute to the discussion as if you were a legislator.

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[Associate Justice PiT]

     After Clarence's bill, I realized that we don't know much of anything about the composition of the IDS Militia. Since we're keeping a budget, this is problematic, since we cannot figure out how much the Militia costs then. This bill is intended to help us figure that out by codifying some specific numbers.

[CLARENCE 2015!]

I believe a ismple solution could be this....

I'll use terms I'm more familiar with- equate ranks with Army National Guard with Army, Air Force National Guard with Air Force. Equate pay when activated with active duty Army/Air Force, non-activated with Army Reserve/Air Force Reserve

[Associate Justice PiT]

I believe a ismple solution could be this....

I'll use terms I'm more familiar with- equate ranks with Army National Guard with Army, Air Force National Guard with Air Force. Equate pay when activated with active duty Army/Air Force, non-activated with Army Reserve/Air Force Reserve

     The thing is, we also need to specify numbers in each rank, so we can have a clear idea of how much it costs. Would you have any ideas of what would be reasonable estimates?

[Pingvin]

We should form a special committee for this!

[Associate Justice PiT]

     In a sense, this is a special committee.

[Yelnoc]

We should form a special committee for this!

A committee of one?

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[Mr. Taft Republican]

First we would need to know the amount of militiamen in total, so I'd put forth the suggestion it not be allowed to exceed a certain number, say 200,000?

[CLARENCE 2015!]

I would recommend 100K total, 75K Army 25K Air to be easy

[Yelnoc]

I would recommend 100K total, 75K Army 25K Air to be easy

What about a coast guard force?

[CLARENCE 2015!]

I would recommend 100K total, 75K Army 25K Air to be easy

What about a coast guard force?

Coast Guard is national, not part of any state's control

[Associate Justice PiT]

     100K current militiamen with a cap of 200K sounds good. How about ~5K active at any one time (reserves undergoing training & administration to facilitate rapid deployment in case of emergency)? I think the costs of deploying the remainder for the natural disasters earlier this year (equipment, food, shelter, pay) can be handwaved as part of those appropriations bills that we passed.

     FTR, I am sort of busy with schoolwork now. I'll probably have time to write up an amendment incorporating these suggestions Monday night.

[Pingvin]

     100K current militiamen with a cap of 200K sounds good. How about ~5K active at any one time (reserves undergoing training & administration to facilitate rapid deployment in case of emergency)? I think the costs of deploying the remainder for the natural disasters earlier this year (equipment, food, shelter, pay) can be handwaved as part of those appropriations bills that we passed.

Good idea!

[CLARENCE 2015!]

     100K current militiamen with a cap of 200K sounds good. How about ~5K active at any one time (reserves undergoing training & administration to facilitate rapid deployment in case of emergency)? I think the costs of deploying the remainder for the natural disasters earlier this year (equipment, food, shelter, pay) can be handwaved as part of those appropriations bills that we passed.

     FTR, I am sort of busy with schoolwork now. I'll probably have time to write up an amendment incorporating these suggestions Monday night.

That is a good idea...maybe a provision to include federally activated militiamen as well

[Associate Justice PiT]

     This is roughly what we have so far:

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     So I guess paygrade is next. Clarence suggested that paygrade by rank can be found online, though I am still somewhat busy tonight.

     I would say that we should also take this opportunity to define rough numbers for how many people comprise each rank, so then we can calculate the costs of their wages. I would also say that we should expand this section to encompass pensions as well.

[Mr. Taft Republican]

Alright, here goes nothing

3. Paygrade
a. Paygrade on active and reserve militiamen shall equal that of their national counterparts..
b. Specifics http://www.navycs.com/2011-military-pay-chart.html

As  for the officer to enlisted ratio, I'd go 1:6.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Great job finding that. However, those charts are rather complicated. We'll need to make some additional assumptions about the composition to make it more manageable. Particularly we'll probably need to assume an average paygrade & average service experience for militiamen.

[CLARENCE 2015!]

Regarding the Militia....servicemembers are paid usually a monthly stipend and pay for drill- the one weekend a month and two weeks a year.  Since this is an online board, I would recommend something simple:

For all federally activated troops or militia called for disaster duty, pay is equivalent to active duty soldiers or airman in the national Army and Air Force.

For soldiers and airman in the Ready Militia, I would propose the following numbers. First number is monthly drill stipend, second is for annual training.
E-1: 150/1000
E-2: 175/1025
E-3: 200/1050
E-4: 225/1075
E-5: 250/1100
E-6: 275/1125
E-7: 300/1150
E-8: 325/1175
E-9: 350/1200
O-1: 500/1350
O-2: 525/1375
O-3: 550/1400
O-4: 575/1425
O-5: 600/1450
O-6: 625/1475
O-7: 650/1500

Therefore, annual expenditures would be the following: monthly pay x12 plus annual training pay:
E-1: 2800
E-2: 3125
E-3: 3450
E-4: 3775
E-5: 4100
E-6: 4425
E-7: 4750
E-8: 5075
E-9: 5400
O-1: 7350
O-2: 7675
O-3: 8000
O-4: 8325
O-5: 8650
O-6: 8975
O-7: 9300

This does NOT include bonuses including incentives to remain in the Militia. In reality pay for higher rates would be higher including these bonuses

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Alright, thanks. Using Taft's suggested officer:enlisted ratio, it seems we then need to estimate an average rank. Does E/O-3 sound reasonable?

     As for a retention bonus, we could go with something like $150*years served. In that case, how does three years served sound for an average?