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« on: November 24, 2014, 04:53:58 pm »
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Not only did he win the state comfortably he carried all the counties around Philadelphia. These counties used to be GOP territory but moved away because the GOP became to conservative yet they voted for Santorum? This wasn't a usual low turnout midterm either this was an election year and Santorum still won.

Santorum is more conservative than Bush, that's an odd result.

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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2014, 04:56:08 pm »
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This has already been done and I just saw it my bad haha.... sorry Tongue
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« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2014, 04:59:09 pm »
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Not economically speaking he isn't,and perhaps the Democrats fielded a weak challenger.

But seriously fiscal liberalism and social liberalism do not always mix, and Santorum is only conservative where social issues are concerned, he is a moderate on economics.

And given that he lost to Bob Casey, who is only slightly more to the left... you can see that in a state part Philly,part Pittsburgh, and part Dixie that he fit well with the climate.
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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2014, 06:45:24 pm »
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Ron Klink actually would have been a good fit for PA, considering he was conservative on most social issues and liberal economically. However, this was before Santorum went off the deep end. He was a conservative, yes, but Pennsylvanians will only dump an incumbent if they prove absolutely intolerable. In 2000, Rick Santorum hadn't reached that point yet. Ron Klink lacked money and presence as well.
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« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2014, 04:23:21 pm »
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Probably nothing more than incumbency.
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« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2014, 06:43:42 pm »
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Cynic is right. The Philly Burbs would still vote for a Republican down ballot and PA had long had two Republican Senators even as it leaned Democrat. Republicans held onto open seats in 1958 (a big Dem Wave) and 1976 (Carter won the state). Specter also did fine in 1992.

Santorum was indeed far more COnservative then Scott, Heinz or Specter, but he had strong appeal out west to Democrats and without having yet become controversial he was well positioned to win reelection even as the state went Democratic.

And also as Doc Cynic said, you had an underfunded Democrat that never really caught fire. Also Republicans did quite a lot to emphasize the fact that Klink was pro-life in the SE part of the state, thus removing the one issue that could give Santorum a headache in that region.
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« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2014, 10:45:56 pm »
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Probably nothing more than incumbency.

That's really too simplistic. Santorum had that advantage, yes, but Klink was underfunded and couldn't mobilize support. He was well known here in the west and a good fit. He used to work as a newscaster on KDKA. But what is that to people in Philadelphia? He had no name recognition and no money to push at the Republicans who poured money into Santorum's campaign. All Santorum had to do was do well enough here and hold the suburbs and he did that. Incumbency is a part of it, not the whole picture.
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