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« Reply #25 on: March 12, 2004, 02:05:43 am »
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I really hope that it isn't Al Qaeda, because in this case there would be immediate terrorist threat in all around the Europe.

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Oh, I think I see what you mean. But the threat against Sweden or Finland must be considered to be pretty minimal.

Menace against Sweden or Finland is pretty minimal, yes. But against UK, Italy, Holland, Denmark who all supported war on Iraq... I'm not so sure about threat against France and Germany. (They were both in Afghanistan, nevertheless)

I'm travelling to London in the next weekend. I have to admit that I fear little. But I don't know did this attack change anything. I consider that London was already high on the Al Qaeda's target list.

What kind of feelings you have our fellow British members?

In September 2001 I was going to New York. Our plane should have started in 9/14. It was canceled of course. Now it feels that it all is happening again.

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« Reply #26 on: March 12, 2004, 04:09:23 am »
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I really hope that it isn't Al Qaeda, because in this case there would be immediate terrorist threat in all around the Europe.

good morning Mr Finn

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Oh, I think I see what you mean. But the threat against Sweden or Finland must be considered to be pretty minimal.

Menace against Sweden or Finland is pretty minimal, yes. But against UK, Italy, Holland, Denmark who all supported war on Iraq... I'm not so sure about threat against France and Germany. (They were both in Afghanistan, nevertheless)

I'm travelling to London in the next weekend. I have to admit that I fear little. But I don't know did this attack change anything. I consider that London was already high on the Al Qaeda's target list.

What kind of feelings you have our fellow British members?

In September 2001 I was going to New York. Our plane should have started in 9/14. It was canceled of course. Now it feels that it all is happening again.



now you are beginning to understand what's living under terror's threat
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« Reply #27 on: March 12, 2004, 04:37:08 am »
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And terrorits say that there is a attack against USA "90% ready". Sorry fot this question but if there is a a great attack against USA (as world trade center), is it a good thing for bush or a good thing for Kerry? It'isn't a failure for bush and his policy of safety? (once but not 2)
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against Aubry, Sarkozy will win. Aubry is a very bad candidate for prime time : no charisma, no sympathy, muslim connection, stupid ideas,... and sarkozy is a good candidate...

but against hollande, sarkozy will lose."

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« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2004, 09:52:33 am »
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If the attack was by Al Qaeda, it's possible that it has nothing to do with the war in Iraq, but a hell of a lot to do with symbolism.
Remember: there were Crusades in Spain as well...
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« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2004, 10:30:34 am »
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If the attack was by Al Qaeda, it's possible that it has nothing to do with the war in Iraq, but a hell of a lot to do with symbolism.
Remember: there were Crusades in Spain as well...

Lol, I don't think they're that intelectually advanced...

To Umengus: this isn't really the thread, but it's a little unclear. I perosnally think that it would work in favour of Bush, since it would make national security a more improtant issue again, and that's one of his main strengths, even if anothetr attack would hurt his credibility.
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« Reply #30 on: March 12, 2004, 05:25:57 pm »
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There are few times I appreciate lving in a small Iowan town. During terrorist threats, I am glad.
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« Reply #31 on: March 12, 2004, 05:27:40 pm »
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There are few times I appreciate lving in a small Iowan town. During terrorist threats, I am glad.

you should too
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« Reply #32 on: March 13, 2004, 01:23:55 pm »
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It is likely some minor co-operation between the ETA and Al-Queda. The attack was very suffisticated, and was likely not masterminded by Al-Queda alone. Perhaps they used the small Muslim population in Spain for help, but I suspect the ETA was involved, perhaps in a small respect, but involved.

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« Reply #33 on: March 13, 2004, 05:55:43 pm »
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It is likely some minor co-operation between the ETA and Al-Queda. The attack was very suffisticated, and was likely not masterminded by Al-Queda alone. Perhaps they used the small Muslim population in Spain for help, but I suspect the ETA was involved, perhaps in a small respect, but involved.

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I hope ETA was involved, since it would most likely mean that they're over.  
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« Reply #34 on: March 13, 2004, 06:04:46 pm »
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It is likely some minor co-operation between the ETA and Al-Queda. The attack was very suffisticated, and was likely not masterminded by Al-Queda alone. Perhaps they used the small Muslim population in Spain for help, but I suspect the ETA was involved, perhaps in a small respect, but involved.

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I hope ETA was involved, since it would most likely mean that they're over.  

It's Al Qaeda
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« Reply #35 on: March 13, 2004, 06:08:55 pm »
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It is likely some minor co-operation between the ETA and Al-Queda. The attack was very suffisticated, and was likely not masterminded by Al-Queda alone. Perhaps they used the small Muslim population in Spain for help, but I suspect the ETA was involved, perhaps in a small respect, but involved.

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I hope ETA was involved, since it would most likely mean that they're over.  

It's Al Qaeda

I know, largely due to the reason I mention in my post...
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« Reply #36 on: March 14, 2004, 01:28:10 am »
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Funny, people OUTSIDE Spain seem to think it's Al Qaeda by huge majorities, people INSIDE Spain seem to think it's ETA by huge majorities. At least that's how it stood yesterday. Who knows what the situation in Spain's like today.
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« Reply #37 on: March 14, 2004, 04:43:26 am »
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Lots of people begin to think that it's Al Quaeda.

It's a stupidity to organize elections today too. It's amazing.
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Reply #622 on: July 25, 2011, 04:44:20 pm  

Quote from: Umengus on July 25, 2011, 03:19:09 pm

against Aubry, Sarkozy will win. Aubry is a very bad candidate for prime time : no charisma, no sympathy, muslim connection, stupid ideas,... and sarkozy is a good candidate...

but against hollande, sarkozy will lose."

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« Reply #38 on: March 14, 2004, 07:48:18 am »
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Lots of people begin to think that it's Al Quaeda.

It's a stupidity to organize elections today too. It's amazing.

No it isn't. Terrorists should never be allowed to prevent democratic processes, that's giving in to them.
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« Reply #39 on: March 14, 2004, 09:45:33 am »
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No doubt. It's Al Qaeda! Those animals!

What Spanish government should do right now is increase their participation in operation in Iraq and Afghanistan. That would be right signal to terrorists. It will be huge mistake, if Spain withdraw from the war on terror under public pressure. It only would encourage  new attacks in other countries.

I hope that conservatives will win today's election.  Although I don't believe that socialists would change Spanish foreign policy after this all.
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« Reply #40 on: March 14, 2004, 10:00:46 am »
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Lots of people begin to think that it's Al Quaeda.

It's a stupidity to organize elections today too. It's amazing.

No it isn't. Terrorists should never be allowed to prevent democratic processes, that's giving in to them.

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