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« on: March 13, 2010, 12:31:47 PM »
« edited: March 19, 2010, 07:29:35 AM by Lunar »

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MzU0MDYxMWEyOTdiNGU1OGU3ZjYzYmE3Y2ZlZDQ5NTY=

How can you read that article and not think otherwise.  He sounds so dejected!

I think Nancy has the votes.
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« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2010, 12:33:07 PM »

These people should read the writing on the wall. There is no room for pro-life views in the Demoncrap party any more.
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« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2010, 12:35:03 PM »

I've always doubted he could bring a full dozen with him.  That said, 7 or 8 would still be a pretty formidable obstacle.  There's no doubt that this bill, if it passes, will pass by the skin of its teeth.
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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2010, 12:46:42 PM »

I think it's been pretty clear for a while that Stupak is a few short of a full dozen.  Smiley

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« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2010, 12:47:18 PM »

I think it's been pretty clear for a while that Stupak is a few short of a full dozen.  Smiley

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Welcome back to the fourth grade, everybody!

Hey, maybe you'll pass this time around, Joe. Cheesy
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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2010, 12:47:51 PM »

Touché.
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« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2010, 01:16:08 PM »

These people should read the writing on the wall. There is no room for pro-life views in the Demoncrap party any more.

1.  The language in the Senate Bill already banned public funding on abortion.

2.  This bill was about healthcare, not about abortion.  Stupak wanted to change the abortion law in this country by trying to ban Private Insurers from covering abortion.  I'm sure some pro-life Democrats probably support banning Private Insurers from covering abortions, but realize this bill is not the time or place to try and change abortion law. 
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« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2010, 01:17:38 PM »

It's a shame. One thing about the Democrats that really makes me angry is their uncodnidtional support for abortion, even late-term abortions in some cases.
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« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2010, 01:30:33 PM »
« Edited: March 13, 2010, 01:32:06 PM by Lunar »

I think people forget what Stupak's amendment does.  It bans private insurers who choose to take part in competitive exchanges from covering abortions, even if they, the business, and the employees all want it to.  It's basically radically changes the status quo as far as abortion goes (and as I understand it) in the name of ensuring not one penny of federal money ends up paying for an abortion...but that's not possible.  

This would be like, in a highway bill, forbidding any roads from going to any cities with an abortion clinic in them, or, in an energy bill, specifically saying abortion clinics are not eligible for tax breaks associated with increasing their energy efficiency or something.  Maybe all federal employees should be forced to sign contracts promising not to spend any of their salary money on abortion...if they want to have one, they'll have to juggle on the street or babysit or something for that money.
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« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2010, 02:18:15 PM »

Pelosi is a fantastic speaker.
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« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2010, 02:20:31 PM »

It's time to primary the Stupid Five (or however many). Lipinski, in particular, should have a big bullseye on his back.
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« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2010, 02:30:31 PM »

It's time to primary the Stupid Five (or however many). Lipinski, in particular, should have a big bullseye on his back.

Kos sponsored a primary challenge to Lipinski and it was a total dud. Not sure there's enough non-machine votes to be had in that district or else there wouldn't be a congressman Lipinski in the first place.
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« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2010, 02:32:37 PM »

Haha Stupid 5 and Stupak, not funny. The State of Michigan should kill you now.

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« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2010, 04:28:59 PM »

What an idiot, the senate bill already bans any government-backed plans from supporting abortion, it would have to be paid separately by individuals.
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« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2010, 04:37:28 PM »

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MzU0MDYxMWEyOTdiNGU1OGU3ZjYzYmE3Y2ZlZDQ5NTY=

How can you read that article and not think otherwise.  He sounds so dejected!

I think Nancy has the votes.

This is priceless!

Got to post it so that the original won't be scrubbed.
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« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2010, 04:40:06 PM »

Why would the original post be scrubbed, CARLOS?
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« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2010, 05:06:10 PM »

These people should read the writing on the wall. There is no room for pro-life views in the Demoncrap party any more.

1.  The language in the Senate Bill already banned public funding on abortion.

2.  This bill was about healthcare, not about abortion.  Stupak wanted to change the abortion law in this country by trying to ban Private Insurers from covering abortion.  I'm sure some pro-life Democrats probably support banning Private Insurers from covering abortions, but realize this bill is not the time or place to try and change abortion law. 

Protecting the health of unborn children is still healthcare.
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« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2010, 07:06:35 PM »

These people should read the writing on the wall. There is no room for pro-life views in the Demoncrap party any more.

1.  The language in the Senate Bill already banned public funding on abortion.

2.  This bill was about healthcare, not about abortion.  Stupak wanted to change the abortion law in this country by trying to ban Private Insurers from covering abortion.  I'm sure some pro-life Democrats probably support banning Private Insurers from covering abortions, but realize this bill is not the time or place to try and change abortion law. 

Protecting the health of unborn children is still healthcare.

So you would support this measure, right?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/95-10_Initiative
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« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2010, 07:08:55 PM »

These people should read the writing on the wall. There is no room for pro-life views in the Demoncrap party any more.

1.  The language in the Senate Bill already banned public funding on abortion.

2.  This bill was about healthcare, not about abortion.  Stupak wanted to change the abortion law in this country by trying to ban Private Insurers from covering abortion.  I'm sure some pro-life Democrats probably support banning Private Insurers from covering abortions, but realize this bill is not the time or place to try and change abortion law. 

Protecting the health of unborn children is still healthcare.

So you would support this measure, right?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/95-10_Initiative

Yes, I don't see why not. What's your point?
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« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2010, 07:14:15 PM »

These people should read the writing on the wall. There is no room for pro-life views in the Demoncrap party any more.

1.  The language in the Senate Bill already banned public funding on abortion.

2.  This bill was about healthcare, not about abortion.  Stupak wanted to change the abortion law in this country by trying to ban Private Insurers from covering abortion.  I'm sure some pro-life Democrats probably support banning Private Insurers from covering abortions, but realize this bill is not the time or place to try and change abortion law. 

Protecting the health of unborn children is still healthcare.

So you would support this measure, right?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/95-10_Initiative

Yes, I don't see why not. What's your point?

I assumed you would've instinctively opposed the various "socialist" measures designed to ensure pre-natal health such as fully funding WIC and extending SCHIP to all pregnant women. I'll admit you surprised me here.
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« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2010, 07:17:49 PM »

These people should read the writing on the wall. There is no room for pro-life views in the Demoncrap party any more.

1.  The language in the Senate Bill already banned public funding on abortion.

2.  This bill was about healthcare, not about abortion.  Stupak wanted to change the abortion law in this country by trying to ban Private Insurers from covering abortion.  I'm sure some pro-life Democrats probably support banning Private Insurers from covering abortions, but realize this bill is not the time or place to try and change abortion law. 

Protecting the health of unborn children is still healthcare.

So you would support this measure, right?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/95-10_Initiative

Yes, I don't see why not. What's your point?

I assumed you would've instinctively opposed the various "socialist" measures designed to ensure pre-natal health such as fully funding WIC and extending SCHIP to all pregnant women. I'll admit you surprised me here.


The costs of that would be a pittance compared to the lives that could be saved. There is plenty of other spending that could be cut to pay for it.
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« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2010, 07:24:13 PM »

If it passes, it'll be close.  And if it doesn't pass, Stupak will be one of those to thank for it - and that'll save him in Michigan.  Right to Life is STRONG here in Michigan, and if he were to lose their endorsement, in a bad year for Democrats, it would hurt him (probably not enough that he'd lose, but that all depends on a range of other factors).
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« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2010, 06:53:54 PM »

These people should read the writing on the wall. There is no room for pro-life views in the Demoncrap party any more.

1.  The language in the Senate Bill already banned public funding on abortion.

2.  This bill was about healthcare, not about abortion.  Stupak wanted to change the abortion law in this country by trying to ban Private Insurers from covering abortion.  I'm sure some pro-life Democrats probably support banning Private Insurers from covering abortions, but realize this bill is not the time or place to try and change abortion law. 

Protecting the health of unborn children is still healthcare.

So you would support this measure, right?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/95-10_Initiative

Yes, I don't see why not. What's your point?

I assumed you would've instinctively opposed the various "socialist" measures designed to ensure pre-natal health such as fully funding WIC and extending SCHIP to all pregnant women. I'll admit you surprised me here.


The costs of that would be a pittance compared to the lives that could be saved. There is plenty of other spending that could be cut to pay for it.

Kudos.
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« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2010, 07:29:59 AM »
« Edited: March 19, 2010, 07:33:06 AM by Lunar »

FLASH: Stupak deal-in-the-making would put Pelosi over 216

via Mike Allen
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« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2010, 01:58:38 PM »

Dang it.
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