Scott Brown votes for cloture on bill he doesn't support; "believes in process"
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« on: March 13, 2010, 05:14:05 PM »

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/videoLibrary/clip.php?appid=597813475

So, yeah, he seems to be like a pretty reasonable, moderate guy.

I find it funny that people were calling him a teabagger during the campaign.
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« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2010, 05:17:39 PM »

I find it funny how the tea party movement are gonna throw him under a bus for not being a far-right jackass.
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« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2010, 05:19:30 PM »

Not exactly a major piece of legislation though. I want to see him do that on something really important, then I might consider him a legitimately more moderate fellow. Voting for cloture on some puny tax and benefits bill is nice, but it means nothing if he'll still vote along to filibuster more important things.
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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2010, 08:47:22 PM »

Even if he votes against filibustering items he doesn't like, that doesn't mean he's moderate. Many hardcore liberals and conservatives in the 1990s and before refused to filibuster bills that they didn't like because they considered it an abuse of the filibuster. Maybe I'll start considering Scott Brown a moderate when he denounces trickle-down economics and admits that it does not work.
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« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2010, 10:50:03 PM »

Even if he votes against filibustering items he doesn't like, that doesn't mean he's moderate. Many hardcore liberals and conservatives in the 1990s and before refused to filibuster bills that they didn't like because they considered it an abuse of the filibuster. Maybe I'll start considering Scott Brown a moderate when he denounces trickle-down economics and admits that it does not work.

He's never said he supported it.
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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2010, 11:08:22 PM »

Brown will likely not win another election in MA. Let him cause trouble and make national news so that the Rs will have no momentum by fall.
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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2010, 11:11:13 AM »

Brown will likely not win another election in MA. Let him cause trouble and make national news so that the Rs will have no momentum by fall.

Brown know's he's "Mr 40th vote" atm, so he can put the GOP against the ropes if he wishes and he knows that his re-election prospects aren't great either way.
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« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2010, 11:27:07 AM »

So, yeah, he seems to be like a pretty reasonable, moderate guy.

No. Just a reponsible elected official.
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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2010, 12:00:52 PM »

"41st vote", huh?

So much of that, hipocrite Tongue

Tea Party gonna love you even more Tongue
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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2010, 01:59:52 PM »

Brown will likely not win another election in MA. Let him cause trouble and make national news so that the Rs will have no momentum by fall.

Brown know's he's "Mr 40th vote" atm, so he can put the GOP against the ropes if he wishes and he knows that his re-election prospects aren't great either way.

It's not like he has approvals in the 70s or anything Roll Eyes
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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2010, 02:13:59 PM »

Brown will likely not win another election in MA. Let him cause trouble and make national news so that the Rs will have no momentum by fall.

Brown know's he's "Mr 40th vote" atm, so he can put the GOP against the ropes if he wishes and he knows that his re-election prospects aren't great either way.

It's not like he has approvals in the 70s or anything Roll Eyes


Bush Sr. had approvals in the 80s in 1991 and still lost in 1992.
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« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2010, 02:20:58 PM »

I'm starting to really like Scott Brown.
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« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2010, 03:15:44 PM »

Not exactly a major piece of legislation though. I want to see him do that on something really important, then I might consider him a legitimately more moderate fellow. Voting for cloture on some puny tax and benefits bill is nice, but it means nothing if he'll still vote along to filibuster more important things.

I doubt he will.  And I'm sure he'll be voting against cloture on healthcare (unless they use reconciliation).
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« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2010, 03:16:36 PM »

I'm starting to really like Scott Brown.

I know, somebody who actually is somewhat independent of his party, amazing Shocked
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« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2010, 03:48:26 PM »

Doing this doesn't make Brown a "good old New England Republican".
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« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2010, 03:54:06 PM »

Doing this doesn't make Brown a "good old New England Republican".

So?
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« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2010, 04:05:47 PM »

Doing this doesn't make Brown a "good old New England Republican".

It shows broader trends in his beliefs.
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« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2010, 05:01:50 PM »

We'll see how much he "believes in process" when and if Health Care Reform comes up for a cloture vote.
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« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2010, 06:14:26 PM »

We'll see how much he "believes in process" when and if Health Care Reform comes up for a cloture vote.

Healthcare won't ever come up for a cloture vote.
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« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2010, 06:48:45 PM »

It would actually give his 41st health care vote more sting. Think about it.

He only wants to use it, when he feels it is absolutely necessary. Wink
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« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2010, 10:01:27 PM »

he's making all of the right moves.
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« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2010, 12:47:16 AM »

We'll see how much he "believes in process" when and if Health Care Reform comes up for a cloture vote.

Healthcare won't ever come up for a cloture vote.

That's actually looking more true every day now.
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« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2010, 01:01:21 PM »

I'm starting to really like Scott Brown.

^^^

And at this rate, he'll win re-election, too.
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« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2010, 01:48:37 PM »

We'll see how much he "believes in process" when and if Health Care Reform comes up for a cloture vote.

Doesn't matter, the bill will die in the House most likely.

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« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2010, 04:16:03 PM »

We'll see how much he "believes in process" when and if Health Care Reform comes up for a cloture vote.

Doesn't matter, the bill will die in the House most likely.



I wouldn't call that scenario likely...but assuming it does pass the House, it still won't come up for cloture.
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