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« Reply #25 on: March 23, 2010, 01:45:29 AM »


No.
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« Reply #26 on: March 23, 2010, 01:47:52 AM »

I think as long as he accepted God then it doesn't matter if he is gay or not.

Would you let your kid be home alone with jmfcst? That is a more interesting question perhaps.
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« Reply #27 on: March 23, 2010, 01:48:15 AM »
« Edited: March 23, 2010, 01:50:13 AM by i view my crime, but kindle at the view »

Of course.  It's much healthier for someone to accept himself than it is for him to suppress his identity.
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« Reply #28 on: March 23, 2010, 01:48:22 AM »

When I was about ten years old, my parents sat me down one Sunday afternoon, after a nice lunch of grilled cheese and tomato soup, washed down with a cup of 2% milk, and told me that I had a very important choice to make. They stressed that this choice would affect the rest of my life and that I should give it a lot of thought. That Sunday afternoon they explained to me that I needed to make a choice: would I be a gay or a straight? They gave me some pamphlets, as well a couple of color photographs of penises in different states of flaccidity and erection, as well as some of vaginas and breasts of various sizes and shapes (as well as nipple types). They gave me a week to make my decision. For the next seven days, I spent a lot of time researching on the internet, reading books on the subject, querying my teachers and other adults (including my nextdoor neighbor, Mrs. Morris, and the mailman) and asking my schoolyard chums what they ought about it. Finally, when the next Sunday rolled around, I had made up my mind and decided I'd be a straight.

My point is, my parents gave me that choice, and I'm so thankful for that. So yes, I'll let my children be gays if they'd like.
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« Reply #29 on: March 23, 2010, 01:49:51 AM »


Hell no.
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« Reply #30 on: March 23, 2010, 01:56:29 AM »

What kind of question is that?

No, they can't be gay or they'll be grounded!
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« Reply #31 on: March 23, 2010, 02:00:32 AM »

What kind of question is that?

No, they can't be gay or they'll be grounded!

Would you buy your son gay porno?
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« Reply #32 on: March 23, 2010, 02:01:54 AM »

What kind of question is that?

No, they can't be gay or they'll be grounded!

Would you buy your son gay porno?

Of course not.  Spending money on pornography is a horrendous waste of money when it's available for free online.
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« Reply #33 on: March 23, 2010, 02:02:42 AM »

What kind of question is that?

No, they can't be gay or they'll be grounded!

Would you buy your son gay porno?

Of course not.  Spending money on pornography is a horrendous waste of money when it's available for free online.

Obviously the only appropriate answer to such a silly question.
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« Reply #34 on: March 23, 2010, 02:05:38 AM »

What kind of question is that?

No, they can't be gay or they'll be grounded!

Would you buy your son gay porno?

I wouldn't buy my son porn period.  If he wants porn, he can pay for it himself.

Personally, I'm disgusted by your stance on the issue.  Frankly, your son's sexuality is really none of your business.  And if you think it must, then perhaps you should consider adoption.
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« Reply #35 on: March 23, 2010, 02:09:11 AM »

What kind of question is that?

No, they can't be gay or they'll be grounded!

Would you buy your son gay porno?

I wouldn't buy my son porn period.  If he wants porn, he can pay for it himself.

Personally, I'm disgusted by your stance on the issue.  Frankly, your son's sexuality is really none of your business.  And if you think it must, then perhaps you should consider adoption.

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« Reply #36 on: March 23, 2010, 02:18:21 AM »

By the way, Hamilton, I certainly hope the homophobia is just part of the SegwayStyle persona, not part of your actual character.
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« Reply #37 on: March 23, 2010, 02:20:16 AM »


Why I'm not having kids or why I wouldn't care if they were gay?
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« Reply #38 on: March 23, 2010, 02:30:15 AM »

That question is so stupid I'm not even going to answer it. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #39 on: March 23, 2010, 02:36:43 AM »

I can't make those kinds of decisions for her(present) or them(future). I'd be severely disappointed, and I wouldn't take part in that side of their life(I wouldn't have them bring their partner to my home, wouldn't attend any "wedding" they might have, and wouldn't advertise their orientation to anyone)*, but that's their choice, and I'd still love them and help them in whatever way they need.

* I will say that I'd probably be a bit more moveable in my position if this was my daughter and she were a lesbian, than if this was a hypothetical son. That's just a gut reaction, and not related to any religious convictions.
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« Reply #40 on: March 23, 2010, 03:11:21 AM »

I can't make those kinds of decisions for her(present) or them(future). I'd be severely disappointed, and I wouldn't take part in that side of their life(I wouldn't have them bring their partner to my home, wouldn't attend any "wedding" they might have, and wouldn't advertise their orientation to anyone)*, but that's their choice, and I'd still love them and help them in whatever way they need.

With all due respect, that's not "love" at all.
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« Reply #41 on: March 23, 2010, 03:17:56 AM »

I can't make those kinds of decisions for her(present) or them(future). I'd be severely disappointed, and I wouldn't take part in that side of their life(I wouldn't have them bring their partner to my home, wouldn't attend any "wedding" they might have, and wouldn't advertise their orientation to anyone)*, but that's their choice, and I'd still love them and help them in whatever way they need.

* I will say that I'd probably be a bit more moveable in my position if this was my daughter and she were a lesbian, than if this was a hypothetical son. That's just a gut reaction, and not related to any religious convictions.

Let's hope you won't have more kids than the one you already have. Let's also hope than the daughter has some intelligenge, unlike her father.
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« Reply #42 on: March 23, 2010, 03:18:43 AM »

I can't make those kinds of decisions for her(present) or them(future). I'd be severely disappointed, and I wouldn't take part in that side of their life(I wouldn't have them bring their partner to my home, wouldn't attend any "wedding" they might have, and wouldn't advertise their orientation to anyone)*, but that's their choice, and I'd still love them and help them in whatever way they need.

With all due respect, that's not "love" at all.

Love doesn't mean approving of everything your child does. If my child acted in pornography I wouldn't watch their films or have them invite their porn friends to my home. I wouldn't go to porn awards shows with them. I don't subscribe to the modern notion of "love", which basically means that you accept and encourage everything your child may wish to do. If I were to accept and encourage something that I felt was wrong and bad for them then I don't think that would be love at all.

I'm assuming you don't have children, so I won't take your comment about me not loving my child too seriously.
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« Reply #43 on: March 23, 2010, 03:21:07 AM »

I can't make those kinds of decisions for her(present) or them(future). I'd be severely disappointed, and I wouldn't take part in that side of their life(I wouldn't have them bring their partner to my home, wouldn't attend any "wedding" they might have, and wouldn't advertise their orientation to anyone)*, but that's their choice, and I'd still love them and help them in whatever way they need.

* I will say that I'd probably be a bit more moveable in my position if this was my daughter and she were a lesbian, than if this was a hypothetical son. That's just a gut reaction, and not related to any religious convictions.

Let's hope you won't have more kids than the one you already have. Let's also hope than the daughter has some intelligenge, unlike her father.

I'll hope that she'll grow up to be able to testify of Christ's love and power to conquer sin. But you can hope for whatever you want...
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« Reply #44 on: March 23, 2010, 03:31:31 AM »
« Edited: March 23, 2010, 03:33:55 AM by A.J. Marokai Blue »

I can't make those kinds of decisions for her(present) or them(future). I'd be severely disappointed, and I wouldn't take part in that side of their life(I wouldn't have them bring their partner to my home, wouldn't attend any "wedding" they might have, and wouldn't advertise their orientation to anyone)*, but that's their choice, and I'd still love them and help them in whatever way they need.

With all due respect, that's not "love" at all.

Love doesn't mean approving of everything your child does. If my child acted in pornography I wouldn't watch their films or have them invite their porn friends to my home. I wouldn't go to porn awards shows with them. I don't subscribe to the modern notion of "love", which basically means that you accept and encourage everything your child may wish to do. If I were to accept and encourage something that I felt was wrong and bad for them then I don't think that would be love at all.

I'm assuming you don't have children, so I won't take your comment about me not loving my child too seriously.

Being gay is an integral part of one's being. It is their very identity, and it shapes how they will be treated and who they will seek companionship with all their life. It is not an occupation or a hobby, there's nothing wrong with it no matter what twisted theological position you veil your homophobia in, and rejecting that part of your child is simply a rejection of your child himself.

Not to mention, it's delusional. You "love" the image of your child you have in your head. You would "love" the part of your child that is exactly how you think a "normal" person is and simply try and pretend the rest doesn't exist. Not liking homosexuality is one thing, however, the refusal to even let their loved one on your property is simply outrageously hateful and something you should honestly be ashamed of. I hope your kid turns out gay, truthfully, in the desperate hope that after getting to know that child for so many years your heart would get you to make the right decisions and at least somewhat deal with it.

No, to address your comment, I don't have a kid. I'm 19, gay, and nothing special. But after coming out to my ultra-christian grandparents, I got exactly the same reaction that you just spelled out here. They wanted to ignore that part of me, they wanted to pretend it didn't exist, that it was a "mistake" or "not really who I am." They don't want to hear about me being gay. They don't want to acknowledge I'm gay. They don't want to see me with another guy. They don't want me to be even comfortable in my homosexuality.

We have fought so much over such a thing and conflicted over the topic so much that it's led me to sorta-kinda hate my grandparents, and believe their love for me is a fraud. I will never feel comfortable around them, I can never be who I am around them, and they can never see me truly happy as long as they refuse to see me with another boy. I'm saying this to you now because, if your child turns out to be gay, I would not want your kid to grow up and have the feelings toward you that I now have toward my grandparents. If your kid is gay, I hope you make the right decision and not reject them simply for being who they are, and I hope that you won't put that wedge between the two of you that will sadly remain until the end of your lives.

Love your kid and accept their lives, gay or straight. Life is too short, my friend, to have these divisions between family/
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« Reply #45 on: March 23, 2010, 03:38:06 AM »

I can't make those kinds of decisions for her(present) or them(future). I'd be severely disappointed, and I wouldn't take part in that side of their life(I wouldn't have them bring their partner to my home, wouldn't attend any "wedding" they might have, and wouldn't advertise their orientation to anyone)*, but that's their choice, and I'd still love them and help them in whatever way they need.

With all due respect, that's not "love" at all.

Love doesn't mean approving of everything your child does. If my child acted in pornography I wouldn't watch their films or have them invite their porn friends to my home. I wouldn't go to porn awards shows with them. I don't subscribe to the modern notion of "love", which basically means that you accept and encourage everything your child may wish to do. If I were to accept and encourage something that I felt was wrong and bad for them then I don't think that would be love at all.

I'm assuming you don't have children, so I won't take your comment about me not loving my child too seriously.

Being gay is an integral part of one's being. It is their very identity, and it shapes how they will be treated and who they will seek companionship with all their life. It is not an occupation or a hobby, there's nothing wrong with it no matter what twisted theological position you veil your homophobia in, and rejecting that part of your child is simply a rejection of your child himself.

Not to mention, it's delusional. You "love" the image of your child you have in your head. You would "love" the part of your child that is exactly how you think a "normal" person is and simply try and pretend the rest doesn't exist. Not liking homosexuality is one thing, however, the refusal to even let their loved one on your property is simply outrageously hateful and something you should honestly be ashamed of. I hope your kid turns out gay, truthfully, in the desperate hope that after getting to know that child for so many years your heart would get you to make the right decisions and at least somewhat deal with it.

No, to address your comment, I don't have a kid. I'm 19, gay, and nothing special. But after coming out to my ultra-christian grandparents, I got exactly the same reaction that you just spelled out here. They wanted to ignore that part of me, they wanted to pretend it didn't exist, that it was a "mistake" or "not really who I am." They don't want to hear about me being gay. They don't want to acknowledge I'm gay. They don't want to see me with another guy. They don't want me to be even comfortable in my homosexuality.

We have fought so much over such a thing and conflicted over the topic so much that it's led me to sorta-kinda hate my grandparents, and believe their love for me is a fraud. I will never feel comfortable around them, I can never be who I am around them, and they can never see me truly happy as long as they refuse to see me with another boy. I'm saying this to you now because, if your child turns out to be gay, I would not want your kid to grow up and have the feelings toward you that I now have toward my grandparents. If your kid is gay, I hope you make the right decision and not reject them simply for being who they are, and I hope that you won't put that wedge between the two of you that will sadly remain until the end of your lives.

Love your kid and accept their lives, gay or straight. Life is too short, my friend, to have these divisions between family/

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« Reply #46 on: March 23, 2010, 03:44:54 AM »

I love how the last answer is full of respect and maturity...
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« Reply #47 on: March 23, 2010, 03:45:18 AM »

I can't make those kinds of decisions for her(present) or them(future). I'd be severely disappointed, and I wouldn't take part in that side of their life(I wouldn't have them bring their partner to my home, wouldn't attend any "wedding" they might have, and wouldn't advertise their orientation to anyone)*, but that's their choice, and I'd still love them and help them in whatever way they need.

Yeah you're right, it's a choice you have to leave to the kid. Back when I filled out the Sexuality Choice form I was very undecided as to what I'd choose, but my parents were really pushing for the gay option. Today I kind of regret it and wish I at least had choosen bisexual, as that way I would have had a greater chance to have kids.

I understand your feeling about not wanting to take any part of their life. If I ever have kids (despite my unfortunate choice of sexuality) I'll definatley not attend their wedding, or invite their spouses to dinner if they get together with a Polack. I'd still love my kids, but that just goes against everything I believe in. Polacks are for cheap carpeting, and/or cleaning your house.

  

  

Btw I hope you realise I'm not serious. I've even dated a Polack myself at one point. Oh and Kalwejt, you're welcome to dinner at any time. Bring your sister too... my house could really need a nice cleaning.
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« Reply #48 on: March 23, 2010, 03:56:57 AM »

I love how the last answer is full of respect and maturity...

The thread asked for an answer, I gave it. I didn't do so in order to get a lecture, to get told I should be ashamed of myself, to have my love for my daughter questioned, or to have someone wish that my child is gay so that I'll come around to a view that they support. Well he doesn't have to worry about it effecting him, I fully support gay rights and the right of anyone to pursue whatever lifestyle they wish, as long as it doesn't conflict with other's rights.

We have different worldviews. There is nothing more to say.
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« Reply #49 on: March 23, 2010, 03:59:59 AM »

I can't make those kinds of decisions for her(present) or them(future). I'd be severely disappointed, and I wouldn't take part in that side of their life(I wouldn't have them bring their partner to my home, wouldn't attend any "wedding" they might have, and wouldn't advertise their orientation to anyone)*, but that's their choice, and I'd still love them and help them in whatever way they need.

Yeah you're right, it's a choice you have to leave to the kid. Back when I filled out the Sexuality Choice form I was very undecided as to what I'd choose, but my parents were really pushing for the gay option. Today I kind of regret it and wish I at least had choosen bisexual, as that way I would have had a greater chance to have kids.

By saying I can't make those decisions, I was trying to say that it wasn't a choice made by either myself or my child.
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