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« on: June 13, 2010, 10:14:14 pm »
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The NDP and Liberals have merged into the Liberal Democrats, and are polling neck and neck with the Tories. Harper quits as leader, and the LibDems hold a leadership election. Elizabeth May decided to end her term as leader; meanwhile Marois unexpecedly kicks the bucket, and Duceppe heads on over to save the PQ, meaning all parties are holding leadership elections - thus allowing you, the players, to take over leadership Wink

If anyone needs help finding strong BQ or Green candidates to play let me know.

POLL:
Conservatives - 38%
Liberal Democrats - 38%
Bloc Quebecois - 12%
Green Party - 12%

The first thing we need are players to run for leader. Then, you remain your character, and run to become (or remain) an MP, as well as supporting your party in the general election.
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« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2010, 10:17:10 pm »
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Also, both Layton and Ignatieff have agreed to not contest the leadership (and are not playable)

Also, I will allow former politicians who are young enough, including former Premiers, to contest (Doer, McKenna, Lord, etc)
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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2010, 01:46:44 am »
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Tips...

Conservatives (AKA Tories) range from very right-wing near Republicans, to so-called "Blue Dog" Democrats. Fiscally they want cuts, sometimes very steep, and support the free market.

There are some differences between Canadian Conservatism and American Conservatism.

Conservative social policy does not sell well in Canada. It's not so much that Canada is less of a socially conservative country - it is actually more so than many realize - but it's not something to be talked about. Harping on social conservative issues will lose you socially liberal voters, while not gaining any socially conservative ones. As well, Canadians are different from Americans in that they want more government, and do not fear the government. This is perhaps the most stark difference, but again, Canadians are not actually 'that' much more left wing than Americans. All this means is it is a "tougher sell" to sell conservatism to Canadians. Saying "No Abortions! Your own money in your own pocket!" Might win you an election in the US. In Canada, you need to say more.

I will presume some "Blue Liberals" have left the party to join up with the Tories due to the merger, so you may play a Liberal running for Tory leadership so long as you okay it with me first.


Liberal Democrats (AKA Grits) are a brand spanking new party. They are a merger of the Liberals and NDP, and therefore, have yet to find their footing. The only thing that is clear, is they are on the left. Just how far left will be determined by the new leader, and hence, you the players. Due to some "Blue Liberals" leaving the party, it is safe to say that all members support both Gay Marriage and Abortion. Fiscal issues are where you have a bit more latitude. Remember as above, Canadians want to hear different things than Americans do. Saying "Married Gays! More money for public healthcare!" is not going to get you far in the US, but in Canada, it could win you an election without having to say much more.

The new party would be similar to both the UK's Labour and LibDems, and would reflect all aspects of the US Democratic Party, from Blue Dog to Progressive, and even further to the left. Obama, Dean, Gore, would all feel very comfortable in the party. Kucinich would have more friends, but would still be on the left, and the Clintons would fit but be on the right of the party.

Due to the dearth of true leadership on the benches of the two merged parties, I am more than willing to allow a provincial politician to take up the reigns.


Bloc Quebecois (AKA Bloquistes) is the single most misunderstood party outside Canada, and even within it. Most English Canadians have no clue what the party really stands for, nor do they even know what their name is. While Bloc Quebecois is often translated as "Quebec Block" or even "Block of Quebeckers" both are somewhat untrue. This is why:

French-Quebeckers view themselves as an ethnic group. They look at Canada, and see only an English Canada. They view Quebecois as being as different from "English Canadian" (or "Canadian") as German is from Polish, or as English is from Scottish. This is the core of the entire disagreement with the rest of Canada. The "Bloc Quebecois" is not a block of Quebeckers - people living in the province of Quebec - it is a block of "Quebecois" the ethnic group.

English Canadians do not view the Quebecois as a separate ethnic group, and they do not really comprehend this, they view the debate as one about language, and possibly culture, while Quebecois view the debate as one about ethnicity, and possibly culture. This creates a "cultural clash" that permeates throughout the Bloc Quebecois. Remember that the Bloc Quebecois is not the Parti Quebecois. English Quebeckers are very unlikely to vote for the Bloc. The Bloc is also a bit more open to otherwise right-wing ideas than the PQ would be.


Green Party (AKA Greenies) is Canada's ecologist party. Due to the merger, many centrist supporters have abandon the party and gone back to the Grits, while some very left wing Socialists have joined the Green Party. This has moved the party to the left from where it sits IRL/ITTL (In Real Life / In This Time Line) and this should be kept in mind. The party will need a strong left campaign but also to be mindful of Canadians desire for centrist and moderation in all respects.

Anyone with experience with Green Parties elsewhere in the world will do fine here. I would not recommend too many people play this party, one is good. If you lose the leadership race for this party I will allow you to restart as another.
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« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2010, 04:57:43 pm »
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Can I be Barry Weisleder (Lib Dem)?
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« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2010, 05:51:52 pm »
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I'd be Pierre Paquette. MP for my family's stronghold and big frontbencher.
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« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2010, 02:07:41 am »
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I'd be Pierre Paquette. MP for my family's stronghold and big frontbencher.

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Can I be Barry Weisleder (Lib Dem)?

Sorry, no, he is not well known enough to mount any sort of serious challenge to the leadership.
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« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2010, 12:10:09 pm »
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Can I be Barry Weisleder (Lib Dem)?

oh dear. That guy's a nut.

I'll be Paul Dewar Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2010, 12:10:34 pm »
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Scratch that, I'll be Peter Julian instead.
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