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« on: April 07, 2010, 03:24:49 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2010, 03:37:12 PM »

Perhaps because the ACLU is a hypocritical organization that is selective about which liberties it seeks to protect?

give me a good reason.
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« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2010, 04:50:02 PM »

Perhaps because the ACLU is a hypocritical organization that is selective about which liberties it seeks to protect?

give me a good reason.
I'll give you one, guns.  The ACLU has chosen not to protect that liberty for whatever reason.  Really, they ain't as bad as the right often make them out to be (I'm certainly guilty of it in the past).  Give me any random court case the ACLU has been involved with and I'm likely going to come down on their side.

But the guns thing keeps holding me back.


(and I still don't own a gun nor have any immediate need/desire to get one so leave the "gun nut" insults for somebody else)

ok, than what do you like about the ACLU? why are they even involved in Guns?
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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2010, 03:22:24 PM »
« Edited: April 08, 2010, 03:32:46 PM by HoffmanJohn »

They defended NAMBLA when they gave out manuals on how to get away with their crimes. That's one reason though. There's plenty of other stupidity.

Its about protecting free speech. I may disagree with what NABLA has to say, but i will defend the legal right for them to say it. In any event I think it is pretty STUPID to HATE an organization, and their really is no need to get emotional over it. I can understand how Family Value conservatives might get offended,but even they often benefit from the ACLU.

In the United States Supreme Court over the past few years, the American Civil Liberties Union has taken the side of a fundamentalist Christian church, a Santerian church, and the International Society for Krishna Consciousness. In celebrated cases, the ACLU has stood up for everyone from Oliver North to the National Socialist Party. In spite of all that, the ACLU has never advocated Christianity, ritual animal sacrifice, trading arms for hostages or genocide. In representing NAMBLA today, our Massachusetts affiliate does not advocate sexual relationships between adults and children.

It is easy to defend freedom of speech when the message is something many people find at least reasonable. But the defense of freedom of speech is most critical when the message is one most people find repulsive. That was true when the Nazis marched in Skokie. It remains true today.
Cases like this remind me of how the ACLU can be sometimes compared to atticus finch


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« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2010, 03:36:29 PM »

Oh, were we using the real meaning of the word "hate"?  I thought we were using the internet/14 year old girl/"I hate that sports franchise" version of "hate".

This issue brings up the well known "    Conservative Hate Culture" that can often be found on conservative radio outlets. Sometimes I think it is just an act that someone like Rush Limbaugh likes to throw on,but than I am constantly reminded how Tea Baggers are promoted by Fox news.
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