1985 Ratzinger letter resisted defrocking abusive priests

[Scam of God]

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The contents of the letter

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BBC story:

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Well, I don't see how there can be any more honest claims of "he didn't know." Clearly, he certainly did know what was going on in this case.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

This is disappointing. I hope the pope will address and rectify whatever wrongdoing he might have done.

[Sewer]

This is disappointing. I hope the pope will address and rectify whatever wrongdoing he might have done.

He did it for the good of the Church.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

This is disappointing. I hope the pope will address and rectify whatever wrongdoing he might have done.

He did it for the good of the Church.

No he didn't.

[Scam of God]

This is disappointing. I hope the pope will address and rectify whatever wrongdoing he might have done.

He did it for the good of the Church.

No he didn't.

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Who are you to question His Holiness?

[Lunar]

Imagine if ACORN had done 1/100th as much.

[You kip if you want to...]

Imagine if ACORN B. HUSSEIN Obama had done 1/100th as much.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

This is disappointing. I hope the pope will address and rectify whatever wrongdoing he might have done.

He did it for the good of the Church.

No he didn't.

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Who are you to question His Holiness?

Who am I? Around here I go by the user name Libertas.

[Sewer]

This is disappointing. I hope the pope will address and rectify whatever wrongdoing he might have done.

He did it for the good of the Church.

No he didn't.

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Who are you to question His Holiness?

Who am I? Around here I go by the user name Libertas.

But the pope is infallible!!!

[justW353]

This man needs to resign for the good of his Church...He's lost the trust of the people.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

This is disappointing. I hope the pope will address and rectify whatever wrongdoing he might have done.

He did it for the good of the Church.

No he didn't.

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Who are you to question His Holiness?

Who am I? Around here I go by the user name Libertas.

But the pope is infallible!!!

Not on this issue, he most certainly is not.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

This is disappointing. I hope the pope will address and rectify whatever wrongdoing he might have done.

He did it for the good of the Church.

No he didn't.

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Who are you to question His Holiness?

Who am I? Around here I go by the user name Libertas.

But the pope is infallible!!!

Not on this issue, he most certainly is not.

Blasphemy, Heresy!!! You will go to Hell!!!

Stop the childish trolling please. It's really unnecessary.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Hopefully Soulty can explain this; still, things are getting ridiculous.

[memphis]

Hopefully Soulty can explain this; still, things are getting ridiculous.

I'm sure he'll cobble together some sort of defense. He always does.

[Torie]

The defense is that at the time, it was thought in some circles that pedophiles would respond positively to therapy. For some reason, the idea of calling the prosecutors for what appears to be a crime is just not on certain theological radar screens. I mean, after all, a jail cell might be inimical to the therapeutic regimen.

[Lunar]

The defense is that at the time, it was thought in some circles that pedophiles would respond positively to therapy. For some reason, the idea of calling the prosecutors for what appears to be a crime is just not on certain theological radar screens. I mean, after all, a jail cell might be inimical to the therapeutic regimen.

Has there ever been a politician in modern America who has basically be responsible for a worse scandal?  Like, you would have to physically murder someone to commit a crime worse than letting a priest who openly admitted to tying up and raping two boys continue hanging out with kids in your organization, right?  

Or the hundreds of other raped boys?    

I'd accuse the Pope of being tone-deaf, but that would be insensitive considering the circumstances.  

At what point is the church going to take responsibility?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

That depends entirely on the definition of 'scandal'.

[Lunar]

That depends entirely on the definition of 'scandal'.

Use any definition.



http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/religion/Priest_sued_over_sexual_abuse.html?showFullArticle=y

2008 event

A Catholic priest from a rural parish west of San Antonio is accused in a lawsuit filed Thursday of sexually assaulting a 16-year-old boy at gunpoint and during private catechism sessions two years ago.
The suit, which names outgoing Archbishop José Gomez as a defendant and claims he sought to conceal the matter, comes three days after the Vatican named Gomez as the next archbishop in Los Angeles.

[Gustaf]

To be fair, we should keep in mind that several of the reported incidents are likely made up and/or distorted. When a scandal gets this big you always have people jumping on the bandwagon, so to speak. That isn't to say that there has not been a large number of abuses (there clearly has been) and that it is a big scandal for the Church and all that.

But in situations like these there is always a tendency to take every new report as gospel (if you will pardon the pun) and that might lead you wrong.

[Lunar]

To be fair, we should keep in mind that several of the reported incidents are likely made up and/or distorted. When a scandal gets this big you always have people jumping on the bandwagon, so to speak. That isn't to say that there has not been a large number of abuses (there clearly has been) and that it is a big scandal for the Church and all that.

But in situations like these there is always a tendency to take every new report as gospel (if you will pardon the pun) and that might lead you wrong.

Well, there seems to be systemic child rape, or at the very least, an intentional, fully-aware, systemic cover-up of child-rape..  Where is the church taking responsibility and corrective action?   And is there a moral responsibility, perhaps even a legal one, considering the scope of what Ratzinger did in the latest scandal?  The individual incidents aren't as important as the bigger picture.

I'm concerned.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

requiring celibacy for aspire priests in the western wing (forgot what it is called) of the Catholic Church is the main cause of this problem, IMO.  I highly doubt the Catholic Church has the same problem in their Eastern wing where celibacy is not a requirement.  In the bible, celibacy was never a requirement of the clergy, full stop.  IMO, forcing celibacy encourages homosexuals to take an interest in the priesthood and you end up with widespread problems such as these.

[Gustaf]

To be fair, we should keep in mind that several of the reported incidents are likely made up and/or distorted. When a scandal gets this big you always have people jumping on the bandwagon, so to speak. That isn't to say that there has not been a large number of abuses (there clearly has been) and that it is a big scandal for the Church and all that.

But in situations like these there is always a tendency to take every new report as gospel (if you will pardon the pun) and that might lead you wrong.

Well, there seems to be systemic child rape, or at the very least, an intentional, fully-aware, systemic cover-up of child-rape..  Where is the church taking responsibility and corrective action?   And is there a moral responsibility, perhaps even a legal one, considering the scope of what Ratzinger did in the latest scandal?  The individual incidents aren't as important as the bigger picture.

I'm concerned.

I agree there. I was merely making a general point of caution.

[John Dibble]

requiring celibacy for aspire priests in the western wing (forgot what it is called) of the Catholic Church is the main cause of this problem, IMO.  I highly doubt the Catholic Church has the same problem in their Eastern wing where celibacy is not a requirement.  In the bible, celibacy was never a requirement of the clergy, full stop.  IMO, forcing celibacy encourages homosexuals to take an interest in the priesthood and you end up with widespread problems such as these.

You do realize that homosexuality and pedophilia are not the same thing, right?

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

requiring celibacy for aspire priests in the western wing (forgot what it is called) of the Catholic Church is the main cause of this problem, IMO.  I highly doubt the Catholic Church has the same problem in their Eastern wing where celibacy is not a requirement.  In the bible, celibacy was never a requirement of the clergy, full stop.  IMO, forcing celibacy encourages homosexuals to take an interest in the priesthood and you end up with widespread problems such as these.

You do realize that homosexuality and pedophilia are not the same thing, right?

yes, but they also can overlap in some cases.  But, understand, I am NOT blaming the pedophilia directly on the widespread homosexuality within the Catholic clergy, rather I am blaming the widespread homosexuality within the Catholic clergy on the unscriptural forced celibacy on the clergy.

again, i ask:  does the eastern church, which doesn't force celibacy, have the same widespread problem?

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

again, i ask:  does the eastern church, which doesn't force celibacy, have the same widespread problem?

Too hard to tell......they may just be better at hiding it......