Do Americans really have a low savings rate?
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« on: April 21, 2010, 09:24:29 AM »

Savings are calculated by the US commerce department which uses the method of subtracting spending from to total income to estimate how much is saved. This rate shows a down ward trend over time, but from a households point of view, dollars saved in the bank can be misleading if there is a change in assets like realestate, stocks, and bonds which are the savings for many households.

Thus a house's net worth may increase with the onset of Asset price inflation(stock prices) because sometimes savings are connected to stocks&bonds. Thus if a house's net worth increases than it is possible that the falling savings rate does not indicate unreasonable spending.

Yale economist William D. Nordhaus suggests that savings are over 50% of GDP, and that there is now downward trend.

http://books.google.com/books?id=nk-QXKu6DhgC&pg=PA138&lpg=PA138&dq=william+D.+Nordhaus+genuine+national+savings+rate&source=bl&ots=jmDT-2L9Ek&sig=aHX__SynU7G4u3Pd0FtRXL_2_1U&hl=en&ei=SgnPS5WoDIbGlQeku8ChCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CBcQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=william%20D.%20Nordhaus%20genuine%20national%20savings%20rate&f=false

In any event I remeber how often people would mention how Americans are saving less, and spending more. I have always been disgusted by especially those who use such a statistic without actually mentioning why this is also GREAT thing.
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« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2010, 09:38:03 AM »

Nope. Asset changes are not reliable indicators for calculating the savings rate unless those assets were liquidated in the current period.

For example, if John Q earns $100 during the period, and spends $100. But he owned stock in Company A, which appreciated from $50 to $100. He can legitimately say that he has a 33% savings rate. But then that would be included in his income.

But if John Q did not liquidate the stock I don't see how he can count that appreciation towards his savings. The stock could go down from $100 back to $50 and he could end up with negative 'savings' in the next quarter.
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