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« on: April 24, 2010, 10:52:21 PM »

Massive, massive freedom fighter. A Republican from South Carolina trying to do what he thinks is best for the country in this environment, at the expense of his own career... man...
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« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2010, 10:55:04 PM »

HP: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/25/us/politics/25graham.html?hp
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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2010, 10:58:08 PM »

A scumbag for several reasons. His statements about Iraq being safe while surrounded by copters, armed guards and wearing a bulletproof vest. Really safe. His idiotic justification for supporting Amnesty about the otherside not going away or something, so what, country is more important then politics. Lastly he is a McCain hack. The only reason McCain opposes his  Cap-n-Trade bill is thanks to a great American named J.D. Hayworth. Were it not for him, McCain would be Obama's go to Republican on Immigration, Cap-n-Trade, Gitmo etc.
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« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2010, 11:12:23 PM »
« Edited: April 24, 2010, 11:14:15 PM by Beet »


That's Harry Reid's fault, not his.


That's how it should be, but very few people on either side of the aisle show that they believe that. Graham does, and has taken concrete actions to do so.

Both parties agree that energy independence and resolving the illegal immigration problem are important. You may disagree on the specifics, but it cannot be denied that change is needed. That's why Graham was willing to work across the aisle on these issues.
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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2010, 11:14:30 PM »


No, the Senate should be fully capable of dealing with >1 legislative issue at a time. He's acting like a petulant child.
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« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2010, 11:16:59 PM »


And what convinces you of that? The smooth sailing health care debate that left Senators plenty of time to vacation?
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« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2010, 11:39:21 PM »

He has the same score from the HRC as Larry Craig, which should tell you something.
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« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2010, 12:01:39 AM »

Fairly decent for a Southern Republican. On balance, still an HP.
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« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2010, 12:38:38 AM »

As an aside, the fact that the Reid is moving to immigration now, and putting climate change on the backburner probably means that neither will pass.  If they'd done climate change first, they might have had some shot at passing something (though very watered down from what most Dems want) with Graham's help.  But the GOP will gain too many seats in November for climate change legislation to be doable in 2011.

And immigration reform probably isn't going to pass in an election year.  It's too divisive for both parties, especially Dems.  Vulnerable Dems aren't going to want to make a controversial vote on a guest worker program after they've just made a controversial vote on health care.
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« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2010, 12:40:06 AM »

HP.
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« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2010, 02:17:19 AM »

Graham bugged me from the start.  He was on the House Impeachment Committee for the Clinton case in 98, and he voted "no" on the committee's Article II, which accused Clinton of perjury during the Jones deposition.  Graham's reasoning then was that false testimony in response to questions ruled immaterial to the case in a civil deposition did not rise to the level of an impeachable offense for a president.  But, when the votes for all the Articles came before the House floor, Graham voted "yes" on the same Article he had rejected in committee, and he urged his fellow House members to do likewise.  After that, it was impossible for me to think that Graham was reliably credible.  Don't get me wrong; Clinton did certainly perjure himself during the Jones deposition, but Graham was legally and constitutionally correct about his vote on Committee, and he flipped before the whole House, and then defended the Article II charges in the Senate trial so he could serve on the Managers' team.  After that, I never trusted him.
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« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2010, 04:38:33 AM »

lean FF on balance
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« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2010, 09:27:19 AM »
« Edited: April 25, 2010, 09:29:41 AM by xavier110 »

I've always found it odd that even though he comes across as really, really gay, his, uh, sexuality is never brought up or even an issue during election time. Despite his being in SC. And a Republican.
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« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2010, 10:10:43 AM »

FF. Way less now, then in 2008-2009.
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« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2010, 10:22:19 AM »

A blithering idiot and an attention whore.  He is the Republican Joseph Liebermann.
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« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2010, 10:42:33 AM »

Fairly decent for a Southern Republican. On balance, still an HP.
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« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2010, 03:37:47 PM »

FF - I like him.
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« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2010, 03:58:08 PM »

In this latest spat, Graham is saying, don't expect me to spend political capital on an issue unless you're serious about actually doing something.  I agree with him that immigration reform is going nowhere this year, so making that the Senate's priority right now means climate change/energy-related legislation won't have time to get through unless it is made the priority.  The Senate will be able to deal with at most one complex issue in the time it has left this year.  Remember, there is the budget battle, the confirmation of Steven's successor on the Court, and electioneering to take place as well.
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« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2010, 04:42:41 PM »

HP - would have preferred Bob Conley.
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« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2010, 05:12:09 PM »

In this latest spat, Graham is saying, don't expect me to spend political capital on an issue unless you're serious about actually doing something.  I agree with him that immigration reform is going nowhere this year, so making that the Senate's priority right now means climate change/energy-related legislation won't have time to get through unless it is made the priority.  The Senate will be able to deal with at most one complex issue in the time it has left this year.  Remember, there is the budget battle, the confirmation of Steven's successor on the Court, and electioneering to take place as well.

Considering the fact that the climate bill he wrote with his pal, Joe Lieberman, is taking away from EPA the authority to regulate greenhouse gases and gives even more subsidies to oil companies, there mustn't be much consternation among Democrats that it was scuttled.
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« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2010, 06:23:32 PM »

There are too many Democrats who come from coal producing and using states for there to be any serious chance of any EPA CO2 regulations using current law coming into force.
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« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2010, 06:31:15 PM »

Massive, massive freedom fighter. A Republican from South Carolina trying to do what he thinks is best for the country in this environment, at the expense of his own career... man...

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« Reply #22 on: April 25, 2010, 07:01:14 PM »

I really pity him.
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« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2010, 07:03:52 PM »

Better than anyone else we can elect from that State; especially better than his predecessor.
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« Reply #24 on: April 25, 2010, 07:30:51 PM »

Terrible. Strom was awful too, but he at least answered his constituent's calls.
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