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Citizen (The) Doctor
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« on: April 26, 2010, 09:45:34 AM »

Forgive me if I'm a little fuzzy on this, but what are the political positions of the Liberal Democrats exactly?  I know they're to the left of Labour on many topics, but I'm not too sure what else there is about them (aside from the social liberal/market liberal split in the party).
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« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2010, 11:15:32 AM »

Anything which is moderately indecisive.
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« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2010, 02:51:02 PM »

Too feckless on defence and of a pre-9/11 mindset when it comes to security, for a start.

Translation: they're against the police state that Britain has become, unlike the other two parties. And that is why people need to vote for them.
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« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2010, 02:51:32 PM »

From their tactics, locally, it's hard to tell. I've seen leaflets with them running on Gordon Brown standing outside 10 Downing Street with Margaret Thatcher (i.e. playing on residual local antipathy towards her); yet there's speculation that they'll jump into bed with the Party of Thatcher, in the event of a hung parliament, having played on residual anti-Thatcher sentiments for Labour votes

I wouldn't vote for them. Too feckless on defence and of a pre-9/11 mindset when it comes to security, for a start
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« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2010, 02:55:27 PM »

Too feckless on defence and of a pre-9/11 mindset when it comes to security, for a start.

Translation: they're against the police state that Britain has become, unlike the other two parties. And that is why people need to vote for them.

But I'm a neocon, Lief Smiley, for whom, security serves only to enhance liberty from those who'd seek to deny us both
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« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2010, 03:33:20 PM »

Translation: they're against the police state that Britain has become



Either Britain has always been a police state or it is not one now.
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« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2010, 03:39:30 PM »

Translation: they're against the police state that Britain has become



Either Britain has always been a police state or it is not one now.

Amazing post, Al.

Surprised you didn't go back to all the way to Peterloo.
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« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2010, 04:14:08 PM »

Translation: they're against the police state that Britain has become



Either Britain has always been a police state or it is not one now.

That was sickening Angry
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« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2010, 06:04:11 PM »

I found this very useful:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/election_2010/8515961.stm#subject=key

Moreso than our resident 'experts' in this thread, anyway.  Wink
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« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2010, 06:08:55 PM »


Makes no difference to me where they all stand, Joe. I'm politically restricted Wink
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« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2010, 06:34:03 PM »

So in a hung parliament, we're much more likely to see a Labour/Lib-Dem Coalition?
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« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2010, 06:40:18 PM »

So in a hung parliament, we're much more likely to see a Labour/Lib-Dem Coalition?

At this point, I think we're more likely to see a Lib Dem/Labour coalition than a Labour/Lib Dem one. (If everything else--including party seat and vote totals--were equal, yes, but not if Labour is smaller than the Conservatives.)
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« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2010, 06:46:11 PM »

So in a hung parliament, we're much more likely to see a Labour/Lib-Dem Coalition?

At this point, I think we're more likely to see a Lib Dem/Labour coalition than a Labour/Lib Dem one. (If everything else--including party seat and vote totals--were equal, yes, but not if Labour is smaller than the Conservatives.)

Clegg and Brown working together...now that's a sight to see...
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« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2010, 07:32:36 PM »

So in a hung parliament, we're much more likely to see a Labour/Lib-Dem Coalition?

At this point, I think we're more likely to see a Lib Dem/Labour coalition than a Labour/Lib Dem one. (If everything else--including party seat and vote totals--were equal, yes, but not if Labour is smaller than the Conservatives.)

Clegg and Brown working together...now that's a sight to see...

Without Brown, of course. That should have been obvious; there is absolutely no chance of Brown being leader of the Labour Party after this election unless Labour is not in government.*

*Assuming, of course, that the chances of Labour winning more than ~310 seats are essentially nil, which I think is reasonable.
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« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2010, 07:40:34 PM »

So in a hung parliament, we're much more likely to see a Labour/Lib-Dem Coalition?

At this point, I think we're more likely to see a Lib Dem/Labour coalition than a Labour/Lib Dem one. (If everything else--including party seat and vote totals--were equal, yes, but not if Labour is smaller than the Conservatives.)

Clegg and Brown working together...now that's a sight to see...

Without Brown, of course. That should have been obvious; there is absolutely no chance of Brown being leader of the Labour Party after this election unless Labour is not in government.*

*Assuming, of course, that the chances of Labour winning more than ~310 seats are essentially nil, which I think is reasonable.

So Clegg and whoever replaces Brown then.  At least it isn't Clegg and Cameron, which is a lot worse.
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« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2010, 07:51:31 PM »

It's very unlikely that the Labour Party would allow itself to be a junior partner in a coalition government, especially if it had more seats than the 'senior' partner. Actually, I suspect that constitutional structure of the Labour Party could upset a lot of calculations after the election, but we'll see.
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« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2010, 09:08:07 PM »
« Edited: April 26, 2010, 09:10:59 PM by Verily »

It's very unlikely that the Labour Party would allow itself to be a junior partner in a coalition government, especially if it had more seats than the 'senior' partner. Actually, I suspect that constitutional structure of the Labour Party could upset a lot of calculations after the election, but we'll see.

Yes; my point was that it is more likely that the Lib Dems will win more seats than Labour than that Labour will win more votes than both the Lib Dems and the Conservatives, which I do not find a remotely unreasonable suggestion at this point.
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