FDR vs. Herbert Hoover 1928

[Bo]

FDR is elected Governor of NY several years earlier than in RL. Everything else stays the same. You pick the VPs. Discuss, with maps.

[Psychic Octopus]

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FDR does much better then Smith in the southern states due to his protestant religion, but loses overwhelmingly in Catholic Massachusetts and Rhode Island, which were both won by Smith by one percent. So, it ends up still being a Hoover landslide in the Republican Twenties.

[Bo]

405-126

FDR does much better then Smith in the southern states due to his protestant religion, but loses overwhelmingly in Catholic Massachusetts and Rhode Island, which were both won by Smith by one percent. So, it ends up still being a Hoover landslide in the Republican Twenties.

Since FDR is from NY, I was thinking he might win there. Smith was from there and he only lsot the state by 2%. Since FDR was more charismatic than Smith, he might have pulled off a win in NY.

[Psychic Octopus]

405-126

FDR does much better then Smith in the southern states due to his protestant religion, but loses overwhelmingly in Catholic Massachusetts and Rhode Island, which were both won by Smith by one percent. So, it ends up still being a Hoover landslide in the Republican Twenties.

Since FDR is from NY, I was thinking he might win there. Smith was from there and he only lsot the state by 2%. Since FDR was more charismatic than Smith, he might have pulled off a win in NY.

I doubt it. Political charisma meant far less in 1928 then it does now. Plus, with Smith off the ticket, Catholics in New York would be more receptive to the Republican Party, which also would have assisted them.

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405-126

FDR does much better then Smith in the southern states due to his protestant religion, but loses overwhelmingly in Catholic Massachusetts and Rhode Island, which were both won by Smith by one percent. So, it ends up still being a Hoover landslide in the Republican Twenties.

Since FDR is from NY, I was thinking he might win there. Smith was from there and he only lsot the state by 2%. Since FDR was more charismatic than Smith, he might have pulled off a win in NY.

I doubt it. Political charisma meant far less in 1928 then it does now. Plus, with Smith off the ticket, Catholics in New York would be more receptive to the Republican Party, which also would have assisted them.

FDR actually came reasonably close to losing New York several times OTL.

[Mechaman]

405-126

FDR does much better then Smith in the southern states due to his protestant religion, but loses overwhelmingly in Catholic Massachusetts and Rhode Island, which were both won by Smith by one percent. So, it ends up still being a Hoover landslide in the Republican Twenties.

Since FDR is from NY, I was thinking he might win there. Smith was from there and he only lsot the state by 2%. Since FDR was more charismatic than Smith, he might have pulled off a win in NY.

I doubt it. Political charisma meant far less in 1928 then it does now. Plus, with Smith off the ticket, Catholics in New York would be more receptive to the Republican Party, which also would have assisted them.

FDR actually came reasonably close to losing New York several times OTL.

Yeah in 1940 FDR won New York by only 224,440 votes.....against Wendell Willkie.

[#CriminalizeSobriety]

405-126

FDR does much better then Smith in the southern states due to his protestant religion, but loses overwhelmingly in Catholic Massachusetts and Rhode Island, which were both won by Smith by one percent. So, it ends up still being a Hoover landslide in the Republican Twenties.

Since FDR is from NY, I was thinking he might win there. Smith was from there and he only lsot the state by 2%. Since FDR was more charismatic than Smith, he might have pulled off a win in NY.

I doubt it. Political charisma meant far less in 1928 then it does now. Plus, with Smith off the ticket, Catholics in New York would be more receptive to the Republican Party, which also would have assisted them.

FDR actually came reasonably close to losing New York several times OTL.

Yeah in 1940 FDR won New York by only 224,440 votes.....against Wendell Willkie.

Off from his national average, and only 3 or 4 percentage points.

[Bo]

405-126

FDR does much better then Smith in the southern states due to his protestant religion, but loses overwhelmingly in Catholic Massachusetts and Rhode Island, which were both won by Smith by one percent. So, it ends up still being a Hoover landslide in the Republican Twenties.

Since FDR is from NY, I was thinking he might win there. Smith was from there and he only lsot the state by 2%. Since FDR was more charismatic than Smith, he might have pulled off a win in NY.

I doubt it. Political charisma meant far less in 1928 then it does now. Plus, with Smith off the ticket, Catholics in New York would be more receptive to the Republican Party, which also would have assisted them.

FDR actually came reasonably close to losing New York several times OTL.

Yeah in 1940 FDR won New York by only 224,440 votes.....against Wendell Willkie.

Off from his national average, and only 3 or 4 percentage points.

Yeah, but Wilkie was also from NY. Hoover was not.

[#CriminalizeSobriety]

405-126

FDR does much better then Smith in the southern states due to his protestant religion, but loses overwhelmingly in Catholic Massachusetts and Rhode Island, which were both won by Smith by one percent. So, it ends up still being a Hoover landslide in the Republican Twenties.

Since FDR is from NY, I was thinking he might win there. Smith was from there and he only lsot the state by 2%. Since FDR was more charismatic than Smith, he might have pulled off a win in NY.

I doubt it. Political charisma meant far less in 1928 then it does now. Plus, with Smith off the ticket, Catholics in New York would be more receptive to the Republican Party, which also would have assisted them.

FDR actually came reasonably close to losing New York several times OTL.

Yeah in 1940 FDR won New York by only 224,440 votes.....against Wendell Willkie.

Off from his national average, and only 3 or 4 percentage points.

Yeah, but Wilkie was also from NY. Hoover was not.

Yes, but Willkie never actually held state-wide elected office from NY.

I doubt I myself would crack 30% in Massachusetts, were I to be in an election.

John Edwards was from South Carolina, but won a single precinct in the primary.

Michelle Bachmann is from Minnesota, but I don't think that would pull it towards the GOP.

[Mechaman]

405-126

FDR does much better then Smith in the southern states due to his protestant religion, but loses overwhelmingly in Catholic Massachusetts and Rhode Island, which were both won by Smith by one percent. So, it ends up still being a Hoover landslide in the Republican Twenties.

Since FDR is from NY, I was thinking he might win there. Smith was from there and he only lsot the state by 2%. Since FDR was more charismatic than Smith, he might have pulled off a win in NY.

I doubt it. Political charisma meant far less in 1928 then it does now. Plus, with Smith off the ticket, Catholics in New York would be more receptive to the Republican Party, which also would have assisted them.

FDR actually came reasonably close to losing New York several times OTL.

Yeah in 1940 FDR won New York by only 224,440 votes.....against Wendell Willkie.

Off from his national average, and only 3 or 4 percentage points.

Yeah, but Wilkie was also from NY. Hoover was not.

Thomas Dewey was also from New York and actually was in office when he ran in 1944 against FDR.

[Bo]

405-126

FDR does much better then Smith in the southern states due to his protestant religion, but loses overwhelmingly in Catholic Massachusetts and Rhode Island, which were both won by Smith by one percent. So, it ends up still being a Hoover landslide in the Republican Twenties.

Since FDR is from NY, I was thinking he might win there. Smith was from there and he only lsot the state by 2%. Since FDR was more charismatic than Smith, he might have pulled off a win in NY.

I doubt it. Political charisma meant far less in 1928 then it does now. Plus, with Smith off the ticket, Catholics in New York would be more receptive to the Republican Party, which also would have assisted them.

FDR actually came reasonably close to losing New York several times OTL.

Yeah in 1940 FDR won New York by only 224,440 votes.....against Wendell Willkie.

Off from his national average, and only 3 or 4 percentage points.

Yeah, but Wilkie was also from NY. Hoover was not.

Thomas Dewey was also from New York and actually was in office when he ran in 1944 against FDR.

Yeah, and in 1944 NY was reasonably close as well.

[Psychic Octopus]

Willkie wasn't a New Yorker.  He was born and raised in Indiana, practiced law in Ohio, ran his campaign out of Rushville, and spoke with a Midwestern accent.  He clearly identified more with Indiana then he did with New York.