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« on: April 29, 2010, 07:17:25 AM »

Once again, Ron Paul gets the lowest GOP score from the U.S. Chamber of Commerce

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Adding yet more layers of LOL to the ridiculous notion that the Chamber of Commerce and the corporate business establishment in the U.S. support free market capitalism.

The corporate elites are much too busy cheering on their guy Barack Obama who's been working for them every step of the way.
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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2010, 07:23:08 AM »

Excellent post!

Yeah, the Chamber of Commerce is a leading advocate of kleptocracy.  They believe that the purpose of the taxpayer is to subsidize big business.  Around the country they have having fights with the NFIB. 
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« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2010, 07:28:41 AM »


Sadly nowadays, that term is the very definition of an oxymoron.

Of course, another probable reason for Ron Paul's low score is that he doesn't support illegal wars.
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« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2010, 09:38:29 AM »

Ron Paul opposed the stimulus what a moron. Even the classical economists thought that spending to create jobs would be a good thing.
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« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2010, 10:48:05 AM »

Ron Paul opposed the stimulus what a moron. Even the classical economists thought that spending to create jobs would be a good thing.

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Opposing the stimulus is pretty much indefensible as far as I'm concerned. Did he want another Depression?
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« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2010, 12:07:37 PM »

Ron Paul opposed the stimulus what a moron. Even the classical economists thought that spending to create jobs would be a good thing.

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Opposing the stimulus is pretty much indefensible as far as I'm concerned. Did he want another Depression?

I can understand someone who opposed the bailout but i have no sympathy for someone who opposes' the stimulus.
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« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2010, 12:12:52 PM »

Excellent post!

Yeah, the Chamber of Commerce is a leading advocate of kleptocracy. 

^^^^

Good for Paul on this one.
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« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2010, 12:13:03 PM »

Ron Paul opposed the stimulus what a moron. Even the classical economists thought that spending to create jobs would be a good thing.

O RLY?
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« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2010, 12:55:40 PM »

Ron Paul opposed the stimulus what a moron. Even the classical economists thought that spending to create jobs would be a good thing.

+1

Opposing the stimulus is pretty much indefensible as far as I'm concerned. Did he want another Depression?

I'm glad you people are at least starting to be honest and perhaps will stop pretending that its your side that is taking on Big Business, corporations, and the interests of concentrated wealth.
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« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2010, 01:20:37 PM »
« Edited: April 29, 2010, 01:24:40 PM by HoffmanJohn »

Ron Paul opposed the stimulus what a moron. Even the classical economists thought that spending to create jobs would be a good thing.

+1

Opposing the stimulus is pretty much indefensible as far as I'm concerned. Did he want another Depression?

I'm glad you people are at least starting to be honest and perhaps will stop pretending that its your side that is taking on Big Business, corporations, and the interests of concentrated wealth.

dude Ron Paul opposes the stimulus, attempts to pass we the people act every session, co-authored and edited racist newsletters, lied about how congressional medals were funded, supported the national voter ID act(voter suppression), supported the sanctity of life act, opposes minimum wage, opposes unions, wants to get rid of student loans/federal reserve/ and most of the middle class entitlement programs. He supported deregulation and thus he had a direct influence in creating the "To Big to Fail System". Thus Ron Paul is arrogant, a liar, and is supporter of the current practices of the commercial banking industry.

Sure Ron Paul is consistent,but he is also constantly wrong.

It might be foolish to argue that Democrats are taking on big business, and the wealth elite but it is a complete fallacy to suggest that Ron Paul is against it.
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« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2010, 01:23:48 PM »

Ron Paul opposed the stimulus what a moron. Even the classical economists thought that spending to create jobs would be a good thing.

+1

Opposing the stimulus is pretty much indefensible as far as I'm concerned. Did he want another Depression?

I'm glad you people are at least starting to be honest and perhaps will stop pretending that its your side that is taking on Big Business, corporations, and the interests of concentrated wealth.

dude Ron Paul opposes the stimulus, attempts to pass we the people act every session, co-authored and edited racist newsletters, lied about how congressional medals were funded, supported the national voter ID act(voter suppression), supported the sanctity of life act, opposes minimum wage, opposes unions, wants to get rid of student loans/federal reserve/ and most of the middle class entitlement programs. He supported deregulation and thus he had a direct influence in creating the "To Big to Fail System". Thus Ron Paul is arrogant, a liar, and is supporter of the current practices of the commercial banking industry.

Sure Ron Paul is consistent,but he is also constantly wrong.

Lay off the Robitussin, Hoffman.

Ron Paul is the only man in Congress who is consistently correct.
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« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2010, 01:27:16 PM »

Ron Paul opposed the stimulus what a moron. Even the classical economists thought that spending to create jobs would be a good thing.

+1

Opposing the stimulus is pretty much indefensible as far as I'm concerned. Did he want another Depression?

I'm glad you people are at least starting to be honest and perhaps will stop pretending that its your side that is taking on Big Business, corporations, and the interests of concentrated wealth.

dude Ron Paul opposes the stimulus, attempts to pass we the people act every session, co-authored and edited racist newsletters, lied about how congressional medals were funded, supported the national voter ID act(voter suppression), supported the sanctity of life act, opposes minimum wage, opposes unions, wants to get rid of student loans/federal reserve/ and most of the middle class entitlement programs. He supported deregulation and thus he had a direct influence in creating the "To Big to Fail System". Thus Ron Paul is arrogant, a liar, and is supporter of the current practices of the commercial banking industry.

Sure Ron Paul is consistent,but he is also constantly wrong.

Lay off the Robitussin, Hoffman.

Ron Paul is the only man in Congress who is consistently correct.

Ron paul wants to get rid of the Federal Reserve,but his explanation of why he voted against the Rosa Parks medal shows that he does not even understand how the US mint operates. Thus if Ron Paul does not even understand how the US mint operates than why should anyone trust him with running any government institution, or constructing economic policy?
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« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2010, 02:49:59 PM »

Ron Paul opposed the stimulus what a moron. Even the classical economists thought that spending to create jobs would be a good thing.

O RLY?
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« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2010, 04:26:09 PM »

The stimulus was passed toavoid a depression? Could have fooled me!
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« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2010, 05:33:07 PM »



Yes, we have a depression now. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2010, 05:57:39 PM »

Economists: The stimulus didn't help
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« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2010, 06:08:44 PM »


Bullsh**t.

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This represents the views of sixty-eight people in a particular organisation. Great sample.

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Plus, the CBO, which has a pretty good track record, thinks otherwise.

http://cboblog.cbo.gov/?p=474

Or do you guys now hate the CBO?
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« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2010, 06:31:31 PM »


Bullsh**t.

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This represents the views of sixty-eight people in a particular organisation. Great sample.

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Plus, the CBO, which has a pretty good track record, thinks otherwise.

http://cboblog.cbo.gov/?p=474

Or do you guys now hate the CBO?

You mean the CBO report which categorically states "Consequently, estimating the law’s overall effects on employment requires a more comprehensive analysis than the recipients’ reports provide" - i.e. we can't be sure we're right?  That CBO?

The same CBO that says Obama's $787 billion initial pricetag was $75 billion short?  What's $75 billion in additional failed stimulus funds among friends?  The same CBO that underestimated how high unemployment would get?

Or do I have to pull out this chart again, to show you how the Obama administration's claims about the economy can't be trusted:

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« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2010, 06:37:06 PM »

The Obama administration clearly underestimated how big of a f__ up Bush left them with.

The CNN headline is inaccurate and illustrates the media's bias against Obama. Virtually every private sector study that has actually tried to measure the impact of the stimulus on aggregate economic indicators has found positive effects of over 1 million jobs saved.
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« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2010, 07:55:11 PM »


Bullsh**t.

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This represents the views of sixty-eight people in a particular organisation. Great sample.

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Plus, the CBO, which has a pretty good track record, thinks otherwise.

http://cboblog.cbo.gov/?p=474

Or do you guys now hate the CBO?

Read closer cynic:

"NABE conducted the study by polling 68 of its members who work in economic roles at private-sector firms. About 73% of those surveyed said employment at their company is neither higher nor lower as a result of the $787 billion Recovery Act"

Which means 27% of these survey private sector firms apparently report employment at their company has increased as a result of the stimulus.

"That sentiment is shared for the recently passed $17.7 billion jobs bill that calls for tax breaks for businesses that hire and additional infrastructure spending. More than two-thirds of those polled believe the measure won't affect payrolls, while 30% expect it to boost hiring "moderately."

Note bolded section. 30%! 

As Oakvale noted, the article title is rather misleading. What share of private sector firms would you expect to report an increase in payroll specifically from the stimulus? I'd say these 27 & 30% responses are pretty darn good. Of course a larger stimulus would've boosted these numbers, but Republicans opposed an expanded stimulus, remember? Though that still doesn't prevent them from complaining the stimulus didn't do enough obviously.
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