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« on: April 30, 2010, 07:11:54 AM »

On the political compass, and in general, there is a trend towards social authoritarianism. Why is this?
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« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2010, 08:31:25 AM »

Because social authoritarianism is more prominent than what you expect it to be. Next thread!
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« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2010, 03:07:49 PM »

On the political compass, and in general, there is a trend towards social authoritarianism. Why is this?

How about you tell us? You're the one trending towards authoritarianism (or at least acting like it, no one believes your stunts).
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« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2010, 03:18:22 PM »

On the political compass, and in general, there is a trend towards social authoritarianism. Why is this?

How about you tell us? You're the one trending towards authoritarianism (or at least acting like it, no one believes your stunts).

Bitter much?
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« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2010, 03:31:34 PM »

On the political compass, and in general, there is a trend towards social authoritarianism. Why is this?

How about you tell us? You're the one trending towards authoritarianism (or at least acting like it, no one believes your stunts).

Honestly I've quit keeping track of Winston's politics.  One month he's an "imperialist", the next he's a Nietzche Satanist fanboy libertarian, the next he's a left libertarian, then after that he slowly transitions into libertarian socialism, then becomes a full blown commie, and is now Socialist Labor.  I predict that by this time in August he'll be a registered member of the Buffalo New York Xtra Hot Spicy Wings Party.

Winston, don't take this personally, just having fun at your expense Grin
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« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2010, 03:32:38 PM »

On the political compass, and in general, there is a trend towards social authoritarianism. Why is this?

Society HAS ALWAYS BEEN TRENDING TOWARD SOCIAL AUTHORITARIANISM, it's just that some people are less authoritarian than others (but those people are a very minute few).

It's the way of the world Winston, it sucks mightily but until the influences of traditionalism wear off most people will naturally incline towards certain authoritarianistic elements.
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« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2010, 03:37:18 PM »

On the political compass, and in general, there is a trend towards social authoritarianism. Why is this?

How about you tell us? You're the one trending towards authoritarianism (or at least acting like it, no one believes your stunts).

Bitter much?

I don't know a single human being who appreciates deliberate dishonesty, you little twerp.
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« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2010, 03:43:33 PM »

On the political compass, and in general, there is a trend towards social authoritarianism. Why is this?

How about you tell us? You're the one trending towards authoritarianism (or at least acting like it, no one believes your stunts).

Honestly I've quit keeping track of Winston's politics.  One month he's an "imperialist", the next he's a Nietzche Satanist fanboy libertarian, the next he's a left libertarian, then after that he slowly transitions into libertarian socialism, then becomes a full blown commie, and is now Socialist Labor.  I predict that by this time in August he'll be a registered member of the Buffalo New York Xtra Hot Spicy Wings Party.

Winston, don't take this personally, just having fun at your expense Grin

Socialist Labour pretty much is a commie party Tongue
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« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2010, 03:44:00 PM »

On the political compass, and in general, there is a trend towards social authoritarianism. Why is this?

How about you tell us? You're the one trending towards authoritarianism (or at least acting like it, no one believes your stunts).

Bitter much?

I don't know a single human being who appreciates deliberate dishonesty, you little twerp.

Sticks and stones Hammy.
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« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2010, 03:44:45 PM »

On the political compass, and in general, there is a trend towards social authoritarianism. Why is this?

How about you tell us? You're the one trending towards authoritarianism (or at least acting like it, no one believes your stunts).

Honestly I've quit keeping track of Winston's politics.  One month he's an "imperialist", the next he's a Nietzche Satanist fanboy libertarian, the next he's a left libertarian, then after that he slowly transitions into libertarian socialism, then becomes a full blown commie, and is now Socialist Labor.  I predict that by this time in August he'll be a registered member of the Buffalo New York Xtra Hot Spicy Wings Party.

Winston, don't take this personally, just having fun at your expense Grin

Socialist Labour pretty much is a commie party Tongue

Oops, my bad: Socialist Labour.
Thanks for pointing out my typo Wink
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« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2010, 03:48:36 PM »

On the political compass, and in general, there is a trend towards social authoritarianism. Why is this?

It is kind of a strange coincidence; that could easily describe your PM score lately.
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« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2010, 05:25:16 PM »

"Libertarians" are the least "socially libertarian" people out there (excluding out-and-out fascists obviously).
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« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2010, 05:27:41 PM »

"Libertarians" are the least "socially libertarian" people out there (excluding out-and-out fascists obviously).

How come?
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« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2010, 05:33:01 PM »

"Libertarians" are the least "socially libertarian" people out there (excluding out-and-out fascists obviously).

How come?

Because the "Libertarian" philosophy of the isolated, will-driven individual (usually male) who makes his own choices and decisions is profoundly unlibertarian (and is in fact, a complete fiction). This is especially true when combined (as it always in "libertarianism") with a capitalist work ethic and consumerist (bourgeois) entitlement. It is a philosophy which best belongs in bad John Wayne movies and Ayn Rand's infantile scribblings. 
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« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2010, 05:39:00 PM »

On the political compass, and in general, there is a trend towards social authoritarianism. Why is this?

Society HAS ALWAYS BEEN TRENDING TOWARD SOCIAL AUTHORITARIANISM, it's just that some people are less authoritarian than others (but those people are a very minute few).

It's the way of the world Winston, it sucks mightily but until the influences of traditionalism wear off most people will naturally incline towards certain authoritarianistic elements.

     I would venture a guess that society (American society, at least) is less socially authoritarian now than it was in the 1950s. There might be something to saying that there is a long-term trend towards social authoritarianism, but that does not really bear out as a strictly increasing function.
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« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2010, 06:08:42 PM »

On the political compass, and in general, there is a trend towards social authoritarianism. Why is this?

Society HAS ALWAYS BEEN TRENDING TOWARD SOCIAL AUTHORITARIANISM, it's just that some people are less authoritarian than others (but those people are a very minute few).

It's the way of the world Winston, it sucks mightily but until the influences of traditionalism wear off most people will naturally incline towards certain authoritarianistic elements.

     I would venture a guess that society (American society, at least) is less socially authoritarian now than it was in the 1950s. There might be something to saying that there is a long-term trend towards social authoritarianism, but that does not really bear out as a strictly increasing function.

Right in some ways, wrong in others. America doesn't function as an ideology. We move left on some things and right on others. Gun control is less acceptable now than it was simply ten years ago, gay marriage is more acceptable. Likewise, abortion support has dropped. America has a similar relationship with economic issues.
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« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2010, 06:28:12 PM »

On the political compass, and in general, there is a trend towards social authoritarianism. Why is this?

Society HAS ALWAYS BEEN TRENDING TOWARD SOCIAL AUTHORITARIANISM, it's just that some people are less authoritarian than others (but those people are a very minute few).

It's the way of the world Winston, it sucks mightily but until the influences of traditionalism wear off most people will naturally incline towards certain authoritarianistic elements.

     I would venture a guess that society (American society, at least) is less socially authoritarian now than it was in the 1950s. There might be something to saying that there is a long-term trend towards social authoritarianism, but that does not really bear out as a strictly increasing function.

Right in some ways, wrong in others. America doesn't function as an ideology. We move left on some things and right on others. Gun control is less acceptable now than it was simply ten years ago, gay marriage is more acceptable. Likewise, abortion support has dropped. America has a similar relationship with economic issues.

     Agreed, it is much more complicated than simply "America is moving left on social issues" or "America is moving right on social issues". My post made the assumption that the public's views on social issues could be treated in aggregate, which is by no means a safe assumption to make.
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