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True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
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« on: May 29, 2010, 10:43:39 PM »

I've never heard one bad word about MacArthur.

Then either you are deaf or choosing not to listen.
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« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2010, 01:13:20 PM »
« Edited: June 02, 2010, 01:34:46 PM by True Federalist »

You're all basically saying that MacArthur was too far to the right and so you don't like him. Good argument.

Anyone who thinks that MacArthur was on the right, let alone the far right, never did take a good look as what he did.  Aside from his disdain of politicians telling him what to do, based on what he did while Superintendent of West Point, while Army Chief of Staff, while Field Marshal of the Philippines, and while the Gaijin Shogun of Japan, he was center or center-left politically for the most part, excepting military issues.  Republicans embraced him because he came into conflict with the Democratic presidents he served under, but those disputes were primarily over military issues.  Only when it comes to the military, does MacArthur's record mark him as being to the right politically.

MacArthur finally let his disagreements with his political superiors lead him into insubordination and he was fired for it.
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« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2010, 01:55:09 PM »
« Edited: June 02, 2010, 01:35:03 PM by True Federalist »

Um we dont have "field marshalls" in the U.S Army.

Agreed.  MacArthur was a Field Marshal in the Philippine Army, not the U.S. Army.
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« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2010, 11:31:40 PM »

Um we dont have "field marshals" in the U.S Army.
Well if you want to be so technical about it, George Washington (posthumously) and William Pershing held a rank equivalent to "field marshal."

The U.S. rank of General of the Army, is considered equivalent to Field Marshal as well.

We've never had someone on active duty hold the rank of General of the Armies at the same time someone held General of the Army, so it is a matter of debate whether to consider those two ranks equivalent or not, since date in rank would preserve their seniority if they were considered equivalent ranks  While there was a proposal to promote Nimitz and MacArthur to 6-star rank for the invasion of Japan to unambiguously give them seniority over British 5-star officers who would be involved and had gained 5-star rank earlier, Japan's surrender rendered the point moot and it wasn't really needed even if the invasion had been necessary.
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« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2010, 01:54:15 PM »

The point im making is we have different rank structures than germany, there not called field marshalls.

And as I pointed out, the Philippine Army does have the rank of Field Marshall, which MacArthur held from August 24, 1936. On July 26, 1941, when FDR federalized the Philippine Army, he also recalled MacArthur to active duty in the U.S. Army at his U.S. retired rank of Major General.  However, MacArthur continued to wear what he called his "Philippine field marshal's cap" which added some extra gold trim above the visor to a regulation U.S. Army general's cap until Truman fired him.

It's bad enough you didn't bother check the facts the first time in order to make your snide comment, but you didn't bother to take note of why your comment was incorrect after it had been pointed out.
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