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« on: May 07, 2010, 08:19:07 AM »

Sanders sells out on Senate Floor

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Looks like Barack Obama and Rahm Emmanuel and Chris Dodd and Ben Bernanke have succeeded once again in thwarting any attempt at oversight of the bankster criminals who destroyed the U.S. economy.

Just yesterday Sanders was saying they'd get 60 votes for the true Audit the Fed bill, despite being harassed by Rahm Emanuel. Wonder what changed?
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« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2010, 07:27:21 PM »

Revised Senate Fed Audit Amendment Lacks Bite

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Come on people, call up Sanders and your senators, and demand they put the Paul-Grayson language back into the bill. Don't let Rahm Emanuel and Chris Dodd (D-AIG) derail this historic chance to Audit the Fed for real!
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« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2010, 07:33:40 PM »
« Edited: May 07, 2010, 07:37:51 PM by Lunar »

some more info fyi (not directly related but puttin' it out there)

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/05/the_weird_relationship_between.html
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/05/senate_to_vote_on_breaking_up.html
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/05/should_we_audit_the_fed.html

The last link is the most relevant.

Obviously Ezra isn't God or anything, but he throws a little wonky left-of-center stuff out there that would perhaps contradict the need for this to be the omfg-call-your-senators moment of your life.

And even more obviously this forum is too bipartisan and process-oriented for any real call to action to be effective.  There's nothing you can say here that would result in a single call to a Senator's office.  

No matter your political ideology or your opinion on the audit movement, there is a very cool process story behind this Sanders amendment.  

And I have a hard time believing that Sanders is a genuine sellout, he would probably be in the top 5 of Senators who would be willing to be the lone votes for or against bills, no matter how popular or unpopular, up there with Coburn, Bunning, Leahy, etc.
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« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2010, 08:10:39 PM »

I'm completely with you here, Libertas.

Though I really shudder to think what we would find.  Which is kinda why this is being done.

We'll just have to wait for the markets to make that determination.
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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2010, 01:24:38 PM »

Rep. Alan Grayson: You Own the Red Roof Inn, Thanks to the Fed
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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2010, 03:40:23 PM »

I'm down with the whole "audit the Fed" thing but I'd be lying if I said it was an issue I'm particularly passionate about.
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« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2010, 01:55:52 PM »

96-0: Fed Audit Passes Senate

Sanders expects us to believe that a bill that easily passed the U.S. Senate unanimously actually does anything to really rein in the Fed? Roll Eyes
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« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2010, 06:02:06 PM »

The Jews probably have something to do with this.
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« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2010, 07:05:49 PM »

96-0: Fed Audit Passes Senate

Sanders expects us to believe that a bill that easily passed the U.S. Senate unanimously actually does anything to really rein in the Fed? Roll Eyes

Why does Sanders have this incentive to pull the corporate wool over our eyes, exactly?  Is he a pawn too?
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« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2010, 07:06:46 PM »

96-0: Fed Audit Passes Senate

Sanders expects us to believe that a bill that easily passed the U.S. Senate unanimously actually does anything to really rein in the Fed? Roll Eyes

Why does Sanders have this incentive to pull the corporate wool over our eyes, exactly?  Is he a pawn too?

How should I know what Rahm and the banksters promised (or threatened to do) to Sanders?
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« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2010, 07:13:17 PM »

96-0: Fed Audit Passes Senate

Sanders expects us to believe that a bill that easily passed the U.S. Senate unanimously actually does anything to really rein in the Fed? Roll Eyes

Why does Sanders have this incentive to pull the corporate wool over our eyes, exactly?  Is he a pawn too?

You usually give the impression that you know everything....does that not apply here?

How should I know what Rahm and the banksters promised (or threatened to do) to Sanders?
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« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2010, 07:21:53 PM »

96-0: Fed Audit Passes Senate

Sanders expects us to believe that a bill that easily passed the U.S. Senate unanimously actually does anything to really rein in the Fed? Roll Eyes

Why does Sanders have this incentive to pull the corporate wool over our eyes, exactly?  Is he a pawn too?

How should I know what Rahm and the banksters promised (or threatened to do) to Sanders?

I'm sure they threatened his reelection chances and then his family.

Ron Paul is the only politician you should trust. 
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« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2010, 07:59:33 PM »

96-0: Fed Audit Passes Senate

Sanders expects us to believe that a bill that easily passed the U.S. Senate unanimously actually does anything to really rein in the Fed? Roll Eyes

Why does Sanders have this incentive to pull the corporate wool over our eyes, exactly?  Is he a pawn too?

How should I know what Rahm and the banksters promised (or threatened to do) to Sanders?

I'm sure they threatened his reelection chances and then his family.

Ron Paul is the only politician you should trust. 

Possibly. First they got Kucinich to flip-flop on Obama's corporate health insurance giveaway overnight, now they got Sanders to go from saying he'd get 60 votes for Audit the Fed to not even trying to pass it overnight.
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« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2010, 08:00:35 PM »

So who do you think is behind it, Libertas.....the Rothschilds?
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« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2010, 02:01:45 AM »

What I am most curious about is what they intend to do with what they find in their audit (as any audit of the fed would break someone's balls). Considering that the correct answer is likely to be nothing, I can't say I'm too bothered by this.
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« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2010, 11:58:19 AM »

So who do you think is behind it, Libertas.....the Rothschilds?

What is your opinion, Franzl?
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« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2010, 02:23:39 PM »

The real Audit the Fed bill was defeated 62-37 in the Senate.

Senators in bold are bankster-puppet scum and need to be kicked to the curb by the people ASAP.


Akaka (D-HI), Nay
Alexander (R-TN), Nay
Barrasso (R-WY), Yea
Baucus (D-MT), Nay
Bayh (D-IN), Nay
Begich (D-AK), Nay
Bennet (D-CO), Nay
Bennett (R-UT), Nay
Bingaman (D-NM), Nay
Bond (R-MO), Nay
Boxer (D-CA), Nay
Brown (D-OH), Nay
Brown (R-MA), Nay

Brownback (R-KS), Yea
Bunning (R-KY), Yea
Burr (R-NC), Yea
Burris (D-IL), Nay
Byrd (D-WV), Not Voting
Cantwell (D-WA), Yea
Cardin (D-MD), Nay
Carper (D-DE), Nay
Casey (D-PA), Nay

Chambliss (R-GA), Yea
Coburn (R-OK), Yea
Cochran (R-MS), Yea
Collins (R-ME), Yea
Conrad (D-ND), Nay
Corker (R-TN), Nay

Cornyn (R-TX), Yea
Crapo (R-ID), Yea
DeMint (R-SC), Yea
Dodd (D-CT), Nay
Dorgan (D-ND), Yea
Durbin (D-IL), Nay
Ensign (R-NV), Yea
Enzi (R-WY), Yea
Feingold (D-WI), Yea
Feinstein (D-CA), Nay
Franken (D-MN), Nay
Gillibrand (D-NY), Nay

Graham (R-SC), Yea
Grassley (R-IA), Yea
Gregg (R-NH), Nay
Hagan (D-NC), Nay
Harkin (D-IA), Nay

Hatch (R-UT), Yea
Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
Inhofe (R-OK), Yea
Inouye (D-HI), Nay
Isakson (R-GA), Yea
Johanns (R-NE), Nay
Johnson (D-SD), Nay
Kaufman (D-DE), Nay
Kerry (D-MA), Nay
Klobuchar (D-MN), Nay
Kohl (D-WI), Nay
Kyl (R-AZ), Nay
Landrieu (D-LA), Nay
Lautenberg (D-NJ), Nay
Leahy (D-VT), Nay

LeMieux (R-FL), Yea
Levin (D-MI), Nay
Lieberman (ID-CT), Nay

Lincoln (D-AR), Yea
Lugar (R-IN), Nay
McCain (R-AZ), Yea
McCaskill (D-MO), Nay
McConnell (R-KY), Nay
Menendez (D-NJ), Nay
Merkley (D-OR), Nay
Mikulski (D-MD), Nay

Murkowski (R-AK), Yea
Murray (D-WA), Nay
Nelson (D-FL), Nay
Nelson (D-NE), Nay
Pryor (D-AR), Nay
Reed (D-RI), Nay
Reid (D-NV), Nay

Risch (R-ID), Yea
Roberts (R-KS), Yea
Rockefeller (D-WV), Nay
Sanders (I-VT), Yea
Schumer (D-NY), Nay
Sessions (R-AL), Yea
Shaheen (D-NH), Nay
Shelby (R-AL), Yea
Snowe (R-ME), Yea
Specter (D-PA), Nay
Stabenow (D-MI), Nay
Tester (D-MT), Nay

Thune (R-SD), Yea
Udall (D-CO), Nay
Udall (D-NM), Nay

Vitter (R-LA), Yea
Voinovich (R-OH), Nay
Warner (D-VA), Nay

Webb (D-VA), Yea
Whitehouse (D-RI), Nay
Wicker (R-MS), Yea
Wyden (D-OR), Yea
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« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2010, 02:26:42 PM »

The real Audit the Fed bill was defeated 62-37 in the Senate.

Senators in bold are bankster-puppet scum and need to be kicked to the curb by the people ASAP.


Akaka (D-HI), Nay
Alexander (R-TN), Nay
Barrasso (R-WY), Yea
Baucus (D-MT), Nay
Bayh (D-IN), Nay
Begich (D-AK), Nay
Bennet (D-CO), Nay
Bennett (R-UT), Nay
Bingaman (D-NM), Nay
Bond (R-MO), Nay
Boxer (D-CA), Nay
Brown (D-OH), Nay
Brown (R-MA), Nay

Brownback (R-KS), Yea
Bunning (R-KY), Yea
Burr (R-NC), Yea
Burris (D-IL), Nay
Byrd (D-WV), Not Voting
Cantwell (D-WA), Yea
Cardin (D-MD), Nay
Carper (D-DE), Nay
Casey (D-PA), Nay

Chambliss (R-GA), Yea
Coburn (R-OK), Yea
Cochran (R-MS), Yea
Collins (R-ME), Yea
Conrad (D-ND), Nay
Corker (R-TN), Nay

Cornyn (R-TX), Yea
Crapo (R-ID), Yea
DeMint (R-SC), Yea
Dodd (D-CT), Nay
Dorgan (D-ND), Yea
Durbin (D-IL), Nay
Ensign (R-NV), Yea
Enzi (R-WY), Yea
Feingold (D-WI), Yea
Feinstein (D-CA), Nay
Franken (D-MN), Nay
Gillibrand (D-NY), Nay

Graham (R-SC), Yea
Grassley (R-IA), Yea
Gregg (R-NH), Nay
Hagan (D-NC), Nay
Harkin (D-IA), Nay

Hatch (R-UT), Yea
Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
Inhofe (R-OK), Yea
Inouye (D-HI), Nay
Isakson (R-GA), Yea
Johanns (R-NE), Nay
Johnson (D-SD), Nay
Kaufman (D-DE), Nay
Kerry (D-MA), Nay
Klobuchar (D-MN), Nay
Kohl (D-WI), Nay
Kyl (R-AZ), Nay
Landrieu (D-LA), Nay
Lautenberg (D-NJ), Nay
Leahy (D-VT), Nay

LeMieux (R-FL), Yea
Levin (D-MI), Nay
Lieberman (ID-CT), Nay

Lincoln (D-AR), Yea
Lugar (R-IN), Nay
McCain (R-AZ), Yea
McCaskill (D-MO), Nay
McConnell (R-KY), Nay
Menendez (D-NJ), Nay
Merkley (D-OR), Nay
Mikulski (D-MD), Nay

Murkowski (R-AK), Yea
Murray (D-WA), Nay
Nelson (D-FL), Nay
Nelson (D-NE), Nay
Pryor (D-AR), Nay
Reed (D-RI), Nay
Reid (D-NV), Nay

Risch (R-ID), Yea
Roberts (R-KS), Yea
Rockefeller (D-WV), Nay
Sanders (I-VT), Yea
Schumer (D-NY), Nay
Sessions (R-AL), Yea
Shaheen (D-NH), Nay
Shelby (R-AL), Yea
Snowe (R-ME), Yea
Specter (D-PA), Nay
Stabenow (D-MI), Nay
Tester (D-MT), Nay

Thune (R-SD), Yea
Udall (D-CO), Nay
Udall (D-NM), Nay

Vitter (R-LA), Yea
Voinovich (R-OH), Nay
Warner (D-VA), Nay

Webb (D-VA), Yea
Whitehouse (D-RI), Nay
Wicker (R-MS), Yea
Wyden (D-OR), Yea

So John McCain isn't?
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« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2010, 02:28:54 PM »

The real Audit the Fed bill was defeated 62-37 in the Senate.

Senators in bold are bankster-puppet scum and need to be kicked to the curb by the people ASAP.


Akaka (D-HI), Nay
Alexander (R-TN), Nay
Barrasso (R-WY), Yea
Baucus (D-MT), Nay
Bayh (D-IN), Nay
Begich (D-AK), Nay
Bennet (D-CO), Nay
Bennett (R-UT), Nay
Bingaman (D-NM), Nay
Bond (R-MO), Nay
Boxer (D-CA), Nay
Brown (D-OH), Nay
Brown (R-MA), Nay

Brownback (R-KS), Yea
Bunning (R-KY), Yea
Burr (R-NC), Yea
Burris (D-IL), Nay
Byrd (D-WV), Not Voting
Cantwell (D-WA), Yea
Cardin (D-MD), Nay
Carper (D-DE), Nay
Casey (D-PA), Nay

Chambliss (R-GA), Yea
Coburn (R-OK), Yea
Cochran (R-MS), Yea
Collins (R-ME), Yea
Conrad (D-ND), Nay
Corker (R-TN), Nay

Cornyn (R-TX), Yea
Crapo (R-ID), Yea
DeMint (R-SC), Yea
Dodd (D-CT), Nay
Dorgan (D-ND), Yea
Durbin (D-IL), Nay
Ensign (R-NV), Yea
Enzi (R-WY), Yea
Feingold (D-WI), Yea
Feinstein (D-CA), Nay
Franken (D-MN), Nay
Gillibrand (D-NY), Nay

Graham (R-SC), Yea
Grassley (R-IA), Yea
Gregg (R-NH), Nay
Hagan (D-NC), Nay
Harkin (D-IA), Nay

Hatch (R-UT), Yea
Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
Inhofe (R-OK), Yea
Inouye (D-HI), Nay
Isakson (R-GA), Yea
Johanns (R-NE), Nay
Johnson (D-SD), Nay
Kaufman (D-DE), Nay
Kerry (D-MA), Nay
Klobuchar (D-MN), Nay
Kohl (D-WI), Nay
Kyl (R-AZ), Nay
Landrieu (D-LA), Nay
Lautenberg (D-NJ), Nay
Leahy (D-VT), Nay

LeMieux (R-FL), Yea
Levin (D-MI), Nay
Lieberman (ID-CT), Nay

Lincoln (D-AR), Yea
Lugar (R-IN), Nay
McCain (R-AZ), Yea
McCaskill (D-MO), Nay
McConnell (R-KY), Nay
Menendez (D-NJ), Nay
Merkley (D-OR), Nay
Mikulski (D-MD), Nay

Murkowski (R-AK), Yea
Murray (D-WA), Nay
Nelson (D-FL), Nay
Nelson (D-NE), Nay
Pryor (D-AR), Nay
Reed (D-RI), Nay
Reid (D-NV), Nay

Risch (R-ID), Yea
Roberts (R-KS), Yea
Rockefeller (D-WV), Nay
Sanders (I-VT), Yea
Schumer (D-NY), Nay
Sessions (R-AL), Yea
Shaheen (D-NH), Nay
Shelby (R-AL), Yea
Snowe (R-ME), Yea
Specter (D-PA), Nay
Stabenow (D-MI), Nay
Tester (D-MT), Nay

Thune (R-SD), Yea
Udall (D-CO), Nay
Udall (D-NM), Nay

Vitter (R-LA), Yea
Voinovich (R-OH), Nay
Warner (D-VA), Nay

Webb (D-VA), Yea
Whitehouse (D-RI), Nay
Wicker (R-MS), Yea
Wyden (D-OR), Yea

So John McCain isn't?

John McCain is in primary mode right now, so he is allowed to lie and fake his positions.
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« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2010, 02:30:19 PM »

Oh, hey, Barrasso voted yea. I knew I liked him for a reason.
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« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2010, 03:51:33 PM »




That seems out of place for him.
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« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2010, 09:14:40 PM »

Ron Paul: What Happened to the Fed Audit
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« Reply #22 on: May 15, 2010, 03:19:32 PM »

I hate to bump a page-old thread for a meager reason, but on a closer examination...

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« Reply #23 on: May 15, 2010, 03:25:26 PM »

I hate to bump a page-old thread for a meager reason, but on a closer examination...

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Haha, well we wouldn't be in this mess if Congress ever listened to him.
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« Reply #24 on: May 17, 2010, 12:20:11 PM »

how much would it cost to audit the fed. I know the Fed already gets audited,but how much would this particular audit cost?
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