Let the great boundary rejig commence

[minionofmidas]

Newkie proposals sound bizarre to my untrained ear...
Newcastle South along the river. Newcastle Central to not touch the river and to include two North Tyneside wards. Newcastle East & Tynemouth again snaking along the river. Newcastle North & Cramlington!? And Whitley Bay for the remainder of N Tyneside, also extending into Northumberland.
North of that, Blyth & Ashington, Berwick & Morpeth. And... wait for it... a Hexham seat that extends, not east into the populated parts of Northumberland, not south into non-metropolitan Durham, but southeast into what's now Blaydon. Lmao.
It's pretty clear why they did that, though - it makes it possible to create three seats out of the remainder of Gateshead (sans the two southerly wards that go to a seat now simply named Washington) and S Tyneside: Gateshead W, Jarrow & Gateshead E, South Shields.
Sunderland Central can then grow a little, move a little, and be renamed simply Sunderland, and the remainder of the borough can revert to being called Houghton-le-Spring.

[doktorb]

Is that what they've done, call it "Houghton-le-Spring" ?

[minionofmidas]

Is that what they've done, call it "Houghton-le-Spring" ?

Yes. Chester-le-Street (for North Durham) is back too.

But I really, really love Consett & Barnard Castle. Because it's not enough to link Durham valleys that have no communication links, parts of one used to be in Yorkshire historically, they had to add two Northumberland wards.

Easington, City of Durham, Darlington, Hartlepool just do what they have to do. Bishop Auckland takes Crook and Spennymoor. Sedgefield is dismembered. Their proposal though is a Sedgefield & Yarm seat to angle around Stockton (or rather Stockton & Billington, as the constituency is to be named). Thornaby goes into Middlesbrough. Redcar grows even deeper into boro. Middlesborough S & East Cleveland is renamed & Guisborough just for the hell of it. This concludes my overview of changes in the northeast.

[minionofmidas]

Next on my to-read list: London.

[minionofmidas]

Hornchurch & Upminster, Romford - old names but very new areas, apparently.
Barking & Dagenham proposals are difficult to understand without a map. A Barking & Dagenham seat of the current Barking minus three northern wards, plus River, plus two Ilford South wards, and a Dagenham North seat of the remainder plus two Havering wards? I have trouble visualizing that. Maybe I just should look at a map.

EDIT: Yes, it helped.

[minionofmidas]

"We also propose a Wanstead and Woodford constituency containing nine wards, including wards from the existing Chingford and Woodford Green, Ilford North, Ilford South, and Leyton and Wanstead constituencies."
And an Ilford North, and an Edmonton & Chingford. IDS is out of job, I suppose?
And a West Ham & Royal Docks (ie, what once was "Newham South"), an East Ham that extends into Ilford, a "Stratford" that extends into Leyton. Newham was, of course, too large for two seats at the end. A redrawn Walthamstow survives in between.

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Maps too?

No.

They didn't cross the Mersey though... but they called the South Wirral-and-into-Cheshire seat "Mersey Banks".

Checking Twitter, apparently Mersey Banks is cross-Mersey. EUGHHH. Atleast it's not Wallasey-Liverpool, that'd be even worse.

And my ward's being moved from Birkenhead to Wallasey. If they knew anything about the area, they'd know that that makes no sense.

[minionofmidas]

I'm assuming that McVey will be the MP for the new Wirral West (presuming it'll span down to the old Wirral South/Neston boundary), Angela Eagle will hold some kind've Wallasey+Birkenhead North seat and McGovern and Andrew Miller will fight for the selection in "Mersey Banks".

Oh, no. Birkenhead and Wallasey remain cores of separate seats. The third Wirral seat is Hoylake & Neston.

Sounds like Mersey Banks is pretty literally "all the stuff left in between our west Cheshire [historical sense] seats".

[minionofmidas]

Tower Hamlets seats unchanged. Shoreditch and Stoke Newington dropped from names. Hackney North also includes one Tottenham ward, and is exactly on the upper permissible limit.
Minimal changes to Tottenham (loses one to Hackney, gains one from Hornsey) and Hornsey & Wood Green (loses one to Tottenham, gains one from Southgate). Southgate and Enfield N to take in parts of Edmonton.

Ah, here's the Edmonton monstrosity: "We propose a cross-River Lee constituency named Chingford and Edmonton, the two parts of which link via the North Circular road. The constituency contains three Enfield wards (Edmonton Green, Jubilee, and Lower Edmonton) from the existing Edmonton constituency, five Waltham Forest wards (Chingford Green, Endlebury, Hatch Lane, Larkswood, and Valley) from the existing Chingford and Woodford Green constituency and one Waltham Forest ward (Higham Hill) from the existing Walthamstow constituency."

Hendon, Chipping Barnet unchanged, Finchley & Golders Green to take in one Camden ward. Islington S gives up territory to N, takes in King's Cross, Holborn & Covent Garden, and the City of London. (The name, then, becomes City of London & Islington S).
Hampstead & Kilburn retains the name but moves southeast as far as Kentish Town (so now includes only the Kilburn part of Brent). Remainder of Brent is in Willesden (with one Hammersmith ward) and Wembley & Perivale (with one Ealing ward). The remainder of St Pancras is in a seat with parts of Marylebone, named "Camden & Regent's Park".
Kensington goes on the butcher's block. (All of this crazy sh!t is of course forced by the decision not to split wards if it can be at all prevented.) There's "Paddington" expanding into North Kensington, "Westminster [proper] & Kensington", and an enlarged Chelsea & Fulham. Hammersmith becomes Hammersmith & Acton.
Three more Brent wards go into redrawn Harrow East and West seats, now renamed "Stanmore" and "Harrow" (both go into Brent). RN&Pinner and Uxbridge & S Ruislip survive, but southeast of that it's all change again: Feltham & Hayes, Ealing, Greenford & Northolt, Southall & Heston. Brentford & Isleworth sheds Hounslow Heath which goes into "Teddington & Hanworth" with the northern half of Twickenham and the Hanworth part of Feltham & Heston. South of that, Richmond & Twickenham crosses the river but is entirely within the borough.

[afleitch]

Wales is going to be fun isn't it

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I hope Hallam's been dismembered.

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http://order-order.com/2011/09/12/the-full-boundary-review/

WHOLE thing leaked.

[afleitch]

Need to start working out if we'll get some more lovely blue seats.

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The area around Osbourne's seat is... interesting.

[minionofmidas]

The Commission is actually proud of having achieved no ward splits without drawing seats from three or more boroughs - of course that policy forced multiple borough crossings.

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Witney, unchanged. Doncaster North's still there. Hallam becomes Sheffield West and Penistone.

Anyone know where I can find blank ward maps, or atleast, usable ward maps?

[minionofmidas]

South London:
Bromley now fits into three seats again, so Penge is back in Beckenham. Orpington, Bromley & Chislehurst also survive. Erith now with only the Bexley part of Thamesmead, Bexleyheath & Sidcup. Two Bexley wards in Eltham. These proposals look Toryfriendly for a change. Woolwich wholly in the borough, Deptford & Greenwich leaking across the boundary. "Lewisham & Catford" as a mildly expanded Lewisham E. Rest goes into "Dulwich & Sydenham". Camberwell & Peckham just exchanges a ward for another, Bermondsey gets the northernmost Lambeth ward and yet another new name - Bermondsey & Waterloo.
Croydon N, Croydon E which is what C probably always ought to have been called. Two cross-borough wards of Croydon C & St Helier and Purley & Carshalton. Sutton & Cheam to expand into Morden. Kingston & Surbiton needs to grow, remainder of Kingston goes into "Wimbledon & New Malden". That leaves a Mitcham constituency in E Merton - which has one Lambeth ward. Indeed, Lambeth gets one whole constituency (to be named Brixton) and parts of five as there are three 50% Lambeth - 50% Wandsworth seats: Battersea & Vauxhall, Clapham Common, Streatham & Tooting. Of yeah, Putney takes Fairfield ward and, because it really can't grow any further in that direction, one Wimbledon ward.

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Morley and Outwood becomes Leeds South West and Morely/Leeds South and Outwood. Yvette Cooper's seat has also been split into 3. They'll have fun...

[minionofmidas]

Good news from the southwest:
In North Somerset, the existing two constituencies are unchanged.
Additionally, we propose no change to the boundaries of the two existing constituencies
in the Borough of Swindon.
In the City of Bristol, two of the four existing constituencies are unaltered, while
the remaining two are changed only by the transfer of one ward.
In the County of Gloucestershire, two of the six existing constituencies are unaltered, two are changed only by a small ward boundary change, while two are changed only by the transfer
of one ward.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

What a bunch of incompetent fyckwits.

[minionofmidas]

Devon and Cornwall are much as I expected: Devonwall seat is in the north ("Bideford & Bude"), East Devon is barely changed, West Devon needs to be swung around by the tail and pick itself up from wherever it lands. Plymouth Sutton takes Plymstock (but not Plympton). Indeed, Plymouth is back to Sutton and Devonport seats.

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I suspect most people on this forum could do a better job, no word of a lie.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I wonder how the many cheerleaders for this idiocy are feeling right now.

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Wouldn't shock me if these were voted down. Even the thought of some of the relocations and parachuting in of big name MPs is horrible.

[afleitch]

It's the refusal to split wards that I cannot get my head around. Given what was published in the Scottish site, the Commission here looks as if it is ready to split wards in more than just the 1:7000 ratio STV wards in the cities.

I think they may get knuckle wrapped from the Commissioners here; it's paying too much attention to one of the Rules as opposed to the others.