Let the great boundary rejig commence

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When does the boundary commision start... commisioning?

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Would Na-h-Eileanan-an-Iar, Orkney and Shetlands, Ynys Mon and the Isle of Wight be affected by these changes? They're far under Cammy's 77,658 requirement.

Wight is actually a lot bigger than that - it already has more than 100,000 electors.

I suspect Anglesey might well be subject to this.  Anglesey is connected to the mainland by two bridges, which is more than can be said for the rest of the island seats named.  You could combine it with Arfon.  [waits for Al to explain why this is a bad idea]

Trivia time here - there are actually five constituencies which contain no part of the British or Irish mainland.  What's the other one?

Does the Ilse of Man send a representative to Westminster?  If so, is there a constituency there that contains no part of the British mainland?

No, the Isle of Man isn't part of the UK, it's just... there. It has its own government.

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http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/2740
Reading through some of the guesses from UKPR, I can tell this is gonna end up being a rather funny electoral map. Halton's bad enough, but an actual Wirral-Liverpool seat? It's as wierd as a Wirral-Wales seat would be.

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So yeah, Merseyside. The only thing I'm unhappy with is the splitting of Formby, but that was unavoidable once we don't cross the Merseyside-West Lancs border. Walton constituency is abolished.

Southport 77,512
Current constituency plus Harington (really Formby West) ward
Crosby & Magnull 77,203
Sefton Central minus Harington plus Victoria and Church wards
Bootle & Walton 73,755
Bootle minus Victoria and Church wards, plus County and Warbreck wards in Liverpool
Liverpool West Derby 75,353+x
Current constituency plus Clubmoor and Fazakerley wards minus western part of Tuebrook & Stoneycroft ward (10,291). It is hoped that either the railway or Green Lane would do the trick.
Liverpool Wavertree 70,712+x
Current constituency minus Church ward - that's Church ward in Liverpool, not Church ward in Sefton - plus Anfield and Everton.
Liverpool Riverside 73,310+x
Current constituency plus western part of Church ward (10,688)
Garston & Halewood 71,346+x
Current constituency plus remainder of Church ward
Knowsley 79,271
Saint Helens North 75,866
Saint Helens South & Whiston 78,705
all unchanged.

No "cross-mersey" required?

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Portsmouth South & Ryde 75,160
Remainder of Portsmouth (50.4% of constituency), Wootton Bridge, Havenstreet etc, Brading etc, Sandown South wards and points north east
Isle of Wight (or Wight West) 72,968
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Why are Orkney-Shetland and Na H-Eileanan An Iar allowed to stay as one constituency each, but not the Isle of Wight?

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The government has decreed that the Isle of Wight will be given two constituencies entirely on the Isle of Wight. Given the general direction of policy, I don't quite see how that can be justified on anything other than partisan grounds.

People on the Island that I can see when I stick my head out of my window will probably be less than amused.

What a stupid idea...

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There'll still be a "bias" to Labour with the caps. Turnout will still be lower in Liverpool than in the Shires, meaning that it'll take less raw votes to elect a Labour MP. Simple thinking really.

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Maps too?

No.

They didn't cross the Mersey though... but they called the South Wirral-and-into-Cheshire seat "Mersey Banks".

Checking Twitter, apparently Mersey Banks is cross-Mersey. EUGHHH. Atleast it's not Wallasey-Liverpool, that'd be even worse.

And my ward's being moved from Birkenhead to Wallasey. If they knew anything about the area, they'd know that that makes no sense.

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I hope Hallam's been dismembered.

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http://order-order.com/2011/09/12/the-full-boundary-review/

WHOLE thing leaked.

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The area around Osbourne's seat is... interesting.

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Witney, unchanged. Doncaster North's still there. Hallam becomes Sheffield West and Penistone.

Anyone know where I can find blank ward maps, or atleast, usable ward maps?

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Morley and Outwood becomes Leeds South West and Morely/Leeds South and Outwood. Yvette Cooper's seat has also been split into 3. They'll have fun...

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I suspect most people on this forum could do a better job, no word of a lie.

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Wouldn't shock me if these were voted down. Even the thought of some of the relocations and parachuting in of big name MPs is horrible.

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LOL. The fact that i'm moaning about the fact that my ward doesn't belong in Wallasey is one thing...



They're having a right laugh with that one. Gordon Brown's lost his PPS from Wirral South anyway - nice MP, saw her speak with him on the day of the leadership result before he got to conference.

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WTF is that? Did someone spill their coffee?

Definitely a contender for worst proposal.

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STV anyone?

yes please, just stick existing districts together like they do in Ireland and don't mess about too much, I'm doing a london map and spotted some right corkers so far

Streatham still visible for Chucka?

Just going through Liverpool and the surrounding areas now.

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What i've got so far
http://i54.tinypic.com/300qydk.jpg

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Stoke's a mess.

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Anyone with more experience of this fancy telling me if this would've been workable to avoid Mersey Banks?



Birkenhead - 74,264
Moels and Wallasey - 76,171
Wirral South and West Kirby - 76,871

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for some reason, I spent most of today thinking they'd called it Mersey Shore  

Wonder how many people in the Commission office said that before they settled on the God-awful "Mersey Banks".

And yeah, as close to the status quo would be what they should be aiming for though, surely? With my map, we'd have a safe Labour (Birkenhead) a fairly safe Labour seat (Lab majority slashed compared to the current Wallasey constituency) and a marginal seat leaning Tory (Wirral South).

And in terms of candidates, only McVey would struggle, and she would've won my South seat in 2010 anyway - compared to McGovern, Miller and God knows who else laying a claim to the Banks seat which'd be difficult to represent anyway, what, with all that swimming back and forth.

The Mersey thing was apparently drawn as the only way to avoid splitting Chester... why is that worth more than avoiding splitting Ellesmere Port?

Literally just thought that! It's madness and it has knock on effects for miles beyond the Banks proposal as well. Surely it'll get struck down, it's worse than the Wallasey/Kirkdale/Everton one from last time.

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And yeah, as close to the status quo would be what they should be aiming for though, surely?

No. That's excised from the rules as a one-off for this review only.
Of course, that didn't stop them discussing how they kept constituencies roughly or exactly alike in those parts of the country where it's easier to do (don't blame'em) or even where they at least kept 3/4 together in Birmingham's four-ward seats (lol), and with no regard to whether existing constituencies actually made sense or not (which ought to have been the point of the rules change. They kept Corby as is, lol.)

And they've made York Outer look worse.

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Oh, yeah. There will be no constituency named for Salford. Which is a city.

It's like they got the work experience lad in the office to do it.

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Ah, where would cartoonists be without that plum pudding?



(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/Caricature_gillray_plumpudding.jpg)

What is supposed to be that thing?
It has a rather strange shape, if it is supposed to be a plum pudding.

It's supposed to be a combination of:

a plumb pudding
a turkey voting for christmas
Nick Clegg
the LibDems' logo



also, the guardian has been caricaturing Cameron as an angrysausage since before the election, no idea why, makes him look more like Andrew Br*ns

I thought it was a condom.