A sloution to illegal immigration- $5 for a head of cabbage

[RRB]

That's right,  if you want to curb illegals coming to the US, crack down on people who hire them.  Pay Americans a decent wage to go out into the fields, and pay more for your food.  If people are so uptight about the situation, they should not care.  They won't pay $5 for a head of cabbage, but they want to fill our jails with brown people, and spend billions on a stupid wall on the border.

Am I missing something here, or is this just too simple for our politicians to figure out!!!!!

Seems to me that they would quit coming here if they couldn't work.......RIGHT?

[??????????]

Someone from Michigan really has no idea what the situation is like on the border.

[memphis]

Someone from Michigan really has no idea what the situation is like on the border.

Way to not address his point at all. By the way, where's that border in Florida?

[??????????]

Someone from Michigan really has no idea what the situation is like on the border.

Way to not address his point at all. By the way, where's that border in Florida?

We are considered a border state.

[memphis]

Someone from Michigan really has no idea what the situation is like on the border.

Way to not address his point at all. By the way, where's that border in Florida?

We are considered a border state.

By whom? You guys border Alabama, Georgia, and a lot of oily water.

[??????????]

The water counts as a border. We have illegals from Cuba and Haiti.

[fezzyfestoon]

You cannot be an illegal from Cuba.

[TheGreatOne]

That's right,  if you want to curb illegals coming to the US, crack down on people who hire them.  Pay Americans a decent wage to go out into the fields, and pay more for your food.  If people are so uptight about the situation, they should not care.  They won't pay $5 for a head of cabbage, but they want to fill our jails with brown people, and spend billions on a stupid wall on the border.

Am I missing something here, or is this just too simple for our politicians to figure out!!!!!

Seems to me that they would quit coming here if they couldn't work.......RIGHT?

We don't want to put them in jails.  We want to send them back to their country, construct a wall, and place soldiers on both borders.  The Republicans have already suggested a fine for people who hire illegal immigrants.  Billions have become nothing.  This country is 13 trillion dollars in debt.  The money we save in illegal immigration social expenses will pay for itself.

[??????????]

You cannot be an illegal from Cuba.

Yes, the dry foot policy or whatever the hell it's called. They try to stop them though when they are still at sea if they can.

[Sewer]

i have a border

[fezzyfestoon]

We don't want to put them in jails.  We want to send them back to their country, construct a wall, and place soldiers on both borders.  The Republicans have already suggested a fine for people who hire illegal immigrants.  Billions have become nothing.  This country is 13 trillion dollars in debt.  The money we save in illegal immigration social expenses will pay for itself.

Logically, we would aim to expand the economy while also collecting taxes from people that are here.  The worst idea would be to spend even more money trying to shrink the work force and tax base.

You cannot be an illegal from Cuba.

Yes, the dry foot policy or whatever the hell it's called. They try to stop them though when they are still at sea if they can.

Which makes no sense to me.  But regardless, once they're here, they're legal.

[memphis]

The water counts as a border. We have illegals from Cuba and Haiti.

Everybody has illegals. If your standard is lots of Hispanics and a water border, then New Jersey is a border state.

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The water counts as a border. We have illegals from Cuba and Haiti.

Damn it, where is Florida's fence?

[TheGreatOne]

We don't want to put them in jails.  We want to send them back to their country, construct a wall, and place soldiers on both borders.  The Republicans have already suggested a fine for people who hire illegal immigrants.  Billions have become nothing.  This country is 13 trillion dollars in debt.  The money we save in illegal immigration social expenses will pay for itself.

Logically, we would aim to expand the economy while also collecting taxes from people that are here.  The worst idea would be to spend even more money trying to shrink the work force and tax base.

You cannot be an illegal from Cuba.

Yes, the dry foot policy or whatever the hell it's called. They try to stop them though when they are still at sea if they can.

Which makes no sense to me.  But regardless, once they're here, they're legal.

We would save billions by refusing illegal immigrants the public benefits we give to them.  Why should illegal immigrants be allowed to stay and pay taxes when they migrated here illegally?  That wouldn’t be fair to everyone who legally immigrated.  Lawbreakers should not be rewarded.

[TheGreatOne]

The water counts as a border. We have illegals from Cuba and Haiti.

Everybody has illegals. If your standard is lots of Hispanics and a water border, then New Jersey is a border state.

We should also consider Tennessee as a border state, because illegal immigrants could parachute in.

[dead0man]

That's right,  if you want to curb illegals coming to the US, crack down on people who hire them.  Pay Americans a decent wage to go out into the fields, and pay more for your food.  If people are so uptight about the situation, they should not care.  They won't pay $5 for a head of cabbage, but they want to fill our jails with brown people, and spend billions on a stupid wall on the border.

Am I missing something here, or is this just too simple for our politicians to figure out!!!!!

Seems to me that they would quit coming here if they couldn't work.......RIGHT?

Agreed.  I've been saying the same for years.  I don't want to pay $3/lb for apples, but if that's what it costs to get them from the tree to my grocery store then that's what it costs.

Or, since we have a population willing to do the work for a lot less pay, we bring MORE in legally.  I don't care if there are 100,000,000 Mexicans here if there is work for them, but we HAVE to close the border.  Immigration is fine, it's the illegal part I take issue with.

[Earth]

I don't care if there are 100,000,000 Mexicans here if there is work for them, but we HAVE to close the border.

I still haven't heard a good case to support this idea.

[dead0man]

A nation must protect it's borders.  We can't let everybody that can get here in.

[cinyc]

Someone from Michigan really has no idea what the situation is like on the border.

You do realize Michigan borders Canada, right?

[??????????]

Someone from Michigan really has no idea what the situation is like on the border.

You do realize Michigan borders Canada, right?

Yes, but what is Canada but America, Jr?

[opebo]

The 'sloution' is probably the automatic/robotic cabbage picker, or as an exciting alternative, genetically engineered cabbages that pick themselves.

[Badger]

I don't care if there are 100,000,000 Mexicans here if there is work for them, but we HAVE to close the border.

I still haven't heard a good case to support this idea.

I haven't heard a good argument opposing it.

Seriously, instead of absolute open borders, if a prosepective immigrant can pass a criminal and medical background check (as I believe is already done for visa applicants), and they have a confirmed job waiting for them, then what is the problem with at least multiplying the visas granted by 5 or 10 fold (a complete removal would be too hard to manage, I think). Just strictly apply minimum wage, health and safety and other workplace protections to them to avoid exploitation and collapse of wage standards.

It's simplistic sounding to me, but no one's yet adaquately explained why it wouldn't work.

[Holmes]

Someone from Michigan really has no idea what the situation is like on the border.

You do realize Michigan borders Canada, right?

Yes, but what is Canada but America, Jr?

Someone in Florida really has no idea what it's like in Canada.

[opebo]

Incidentally Chinese cabbage (Pak-Choi) is one of the most nutritious foods in existence:

[ag]

You don´t have to have $5 for 1lb of cabbage. Just have the production moved down to Mexico and have it imported, it will be much cheaper.

Yes, of course, cutting agricultural subsidies would dramatically cut illegal immigration. As a side benefit, it would also help a lot Mexican agricultural sector. I am all in favor.