Why does Rush Limbaugh refer to the Obama adminstration as 'the regime'?
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« on: May 13, 2010, 06:01:25 PM »

I think this hateful behaviour is evidence of his own personal insecurities. Limbaugh should go back to rehab.
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« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2010, 06:06:50 PM »

The same reason that the folks at Air America referred to the Bush Administration as 'the regime'. It's called politics and everyone has a bias.
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« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2010, 06:08:29 PM »

The same reason that the folks at Air America referred to the Bush Administration as 'the regime'. It's called politics and everyone has a bias.

I find it offensive to those who have actually lived under a 'regime'. Those who lived under Saddam in Iraq could only dream of living in a stable and healthy democracy like America and to say otherwise would be morally unjust, if not entirely outrageous.
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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2010, 06:15:39 PM »

I thought Rush called Obama "the Anointed One"
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« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2010, 06:16:20 PM »

I thought Rush called Obama "the Anointed One"

Ironic, seeing as Bush was anointed by the Supreme Court.......
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« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2010, 06:30:26 PM »

The same reason that the folks at Air America referred to the Bush Administration as 'the regime'. It's called politics and everyone has a bias.

^^^ This.


I find it offensive to those who have actually lived under a 'regime'. Those who lived under Saddam in Iraq could only dream of living in a stable and healthy democracy like America and to say otherwise would be morally unjust, if not entirely outrageous.

Merriem-Webster defines regime as a "mode of rule or management b : a form of government <a socialist regime> c : a government in power d : a period of rule". This could be applied to any government at any time.
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« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2010, 06:31:29 PM »

Regime is undoubtedly a word with negative connotations. That is indisputable.
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« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2010, 06:35:37 PM »

When a person lacks the ability to construct a substantive argument for or against something, they often resort to name-calling, scare tactics, and louder talking.
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« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2010, 06:36:08 PM »

The same reason that the folks at Air America referred to the Bush Administration as 'the regime'. It's called politics and everyone has a bias.

^^^ This.

Because getting elected with a large margin of the popular vote in which your opponent can't even break 200 electoral votes and also turning states blue that were red for decades with record turnout, small donor funding, organization is the exact same thing as someone who became President while losing the popular vote but 'winning' through a recount by the thinnest of possible margins because of a Supreme Court ruling stopping it when you're ahead.

Exactly the same. Obviously.

(I'm not saying calling the Bush Administration a "regime" is by any means accurate, but it's far more justifiable than calling the Obama Administration a "regime" and playing this "both sides are equally wrong and equally biased and nothing is objective true or untrue, teehee!" game everytime both sides use identical insults is utterly stupid.)
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« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2010, 06:38:44 PM »

Better question: Why do you listen to Rush Limbaugh?
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« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2010, 06:39:56 PM »

When a person lacks the ability to construct a substantive argument for or against something, they often resort to name-calling, scare tactics, and louder talking.

Couldn't have put it better myself.
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« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2010, 06:43:57 PM »

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« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2010, 06:44:22 PM »

The same reason that the folks at Air America referred to the Bush Administration as 'the regime'. It's called politics and everyone has a bias.

^^^ This.

Because getting elected with a large margin of the popular vote in which your opponent can't even break 200 electoral votes and also turning states blue that were red for decades with record turnout, small donor funding, organization is the exact same thing as someone who became President while losing the popular vote but 'winning' through a recount by the thinnest of possible margins because of a Supreme Court ruling stopping it when you're head.

Exactly the same. Obviously.

(I'm not saying calling the Bush Administration a "regime" is by any means accurate, but it's far more justifiable than calling the Obama Administration a "regime" and playing this "both sides are equally wrong and equally biased and nothing is objective true or untrue, teehee!" game everytime both sides use identical insults is utterly stupid.)

There was a Bush regime. There is an Obama regime. The word has negative connotations in our minds because it's often used negatively, but it doesn't mean that it isn't true. theendisnigh said that Rush Limbaugh did it for the same reasons critics of the Bush administration did it, also true. Are you saying that Democrats between 2001 and 2009 used the word regime to actually put forth some sort of substantive political point? That's absurd, as absurd as saying that Limbaugh is doing it for any reason other than to compare Obama to a totalitarian. The best advice I can offer someone is to not listen to people who use the word regime when describing a democratically elected government.

Margins of victory also mean nothing. Nixon won a landslide, Carter won by a very thin margin, but Nixon was obviously closer to practicing what we consider to be the politics associated with the term "regime".
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« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2010, 06:49:08 PM »

I would imagine, and perhaps this is just my opinion, that the first step of a "regime" would be some sort of questionable or illegitimate taking of power. In that respect there are rather wide differences that give one side a bit more justification in using the term than the other.

(This is not an issue of "opinion" either. Someone can't "believe" that Obama stole the election just because. There are more reasons for someone to believe, true or not, that Bush stole the 2000 election than Obama stole the 2008 election.)
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« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2010, 06:55:53 PM »

The same reason that the folks at Air America referred to the Bush Administration as 'the regime'. It's called politics and everyone has a bias.

^^^ This.

Because getting elected with a large margin of the popular vote in which your opponent can't even break 200 electoral votes and also turning states blue that were red for decades with record turnout, small donor funding, organization is the exact same thing as someone who became President while losing the popular vote but 'winning' through a recount by the thinnest of possible margins because of a Supreme Court ruling stopping it when you're head.

Exactly the same. Obviously.

(I'm not saying calling the Bush Administration a "regime" is by any means accurate, but it's far more justifiable than calling the Obama Administration a "regime" and playing this "both sides are equally wrong and equally biased and nothing is objective true or untrue, teehee!" game everytime both sides use identical insults is utterly stupid.)

There was a Bush regime. There is an Obama regime. The word has negative connotations in our minds because it's often used negatively, but it doesn't mean that it isn't true. theendisnigh said that Rush Limbaugh did it for the same reasons critics of the Bush administration did it, also true. Are you saying that Democrats between 2001 and 2009 used the word regime to actually put forth some sort of substantive political point? That's absurd, as absurd as saying that Limbaugh is doing it for any reason other than to compare Obama to a totalitarian. The best advice I can offer someone is to not listen to people who use the word regime when describing a democratically elected government.

Margins of victory also mean nothing. Nixon won a landslide, Carter won by a very thin margin, but Nixon was obviously closer to practicing what we consider to be the politics associated with the term "regime".

Beat me to it.
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« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2010, 06:57:41 PM »

I would imagine, and perhaps this is just my opinion, that the first step of a "regime" would be some sort of questionable or illegitimate taking of power. In that respect there are rather wide differences that give one side a bit more justification in using the term than the other.

(This is not an issue of "opinion" either. Someone can't "believe" that Obama stole the election just because. There are more reasons for someone to believe, true or not, that Bush stole the 2000 election than Obama stole the 2008 election.)

Your opinion of what makes up a regime is exactly why certain knuckleheads use it, it brings up a negative image in one's mind. Other than that, I'm not disagreeing with you, and I'm certainly not defending Rush Limbaugh and I'm not saying that Obama's victory in 2008 wasn't cleaner and more decisive than Bush's victory in 2000.

The question by the OP wasn't whether or not one side was more justified in using the word 'regime', it was asking why Rush Limbaugh uses it. He uses it for the same reason plenty of opponents of the Bush administration used it: politics. Technically both sides are equally justified in using the word because all it means is a "government in power" or a "period of rule".
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« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2010, 07:57:39 PM »

When a person lacks the ability to construct a substantive argument for or against something, they often resort to name-calling, scare tactics, and louder talking.

Couldn't have put it better myself.
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« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2010, 08:03:51 PM »

I would presume it is because Rush supports regime change. Wink
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« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2010, 10:49:25 PM »

When a person lacks the ability to construct a substantive argument for or against something, they often resort to name-calling, scare tactics, and louder talking.
Have you ever actually listened to Rush Limbaugh, or are you just using liberal talking points?

Why, do you disagree?
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« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2010, 10:59:25 PM »

I thought Rush called Obama "the Anointed One"

Ironic, seeing as Bush was anointed by the Supreme Court.......

Nope - try again.

As to why Limbaugh does it - because it's good for ratings.
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« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2010, 11:05:45 PM »

Maybe he's back on drugs.
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« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2010, 11:45:35 PM »

When a person lacks the ability to construct a substantive argument for or against something, they often resort to name-calling, scare tactics, and louder talking.

Couldn't have put it better myself.

Actually, Rush is pretty intelligent. He's knowledgeable on the issues for the most part.
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« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2010, 01:17:43 AM »

Rush satirizes the Left, and he obviously pushed the right button with "regime".
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« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2010, 01:26:53 AM »
« Edited: May 14, 2010, 01:29:20 AM by The Mikado »

It's an intense misuse of the word "regime."

Proper use:

State: The institution that maintains a monopoly of force within certain set boundaries: a "country."
Regime: The system or type of government established in the State, the rules that establish the format of the successive governments of the State.
Government: The individuals that at any time are in charge of the State.

The "Regime" of the United States, so much as it has one, is the Constitution, or maybe saying that the United States' regime has a democratic republican form.  People that bashed the "Bush regime" or the "Obama regime" are really just bastardizing the English language.
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« Reply #24 on: May 14, 2010, 01:30:50 AM »

I, like Lunar, am trying to figure out why somebody that thinks Bush the Lesser was "anointed" by the Supremes would be listening to Hush Bimbo.
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