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« on: May 15, 2010, 11:23:41 AM »

How did each of these major ethnic groups tend to vote pre-New Deal?

Germans: iirc, overall Republican - even Catholics - though the Catholics voted for Smith and Kennedy afaik, as well as heavily for Wilson in 1912 - or at least in German Catholic Wisconsin areas. They voted Progressive in 1912 and especially in 1924. They swung heavily Republican in 1916, 1920, 1940 and 1944. Especially 1920.
Irish Catholics: strongly Democratic except in 1920 (Wilson alienated them by not pushing for Irish independence in Versailles). Irish Protestants in Canada were strongly Conservatives and Orange Order members, and I'd assume they'd be as strongly Republican as Catholics were Democratic.
Italian: strongly Democratic back then, likely by virtue of Catholicism
Scandinavian: Republican (?) on the whole though Democratic these days. Except Finns (a few in Michigan) who were Communist Party voters. afaik, Scandinavian Protestants were/are far more moderate than German protestants.
French: unusually Republican because of tariffs (a lot of French voters came from Quebec to work in textiles) and conservatism. Democratic in 1928 and after the New Deal. Those in New England are strongly Democratic now, and we know Cajuns. I saw some data on French voters in New England in Quebec City once, forgot most of it.
Czech: Democratic
Polish: Democratic?
I don't know about Russian-Americans, but it'd be interesting to know.

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« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2010, 01:35:25 PM »

By Russian-Americans, do you mean all U.S. immigrants from Russia or just the ones who were of Russian ethnicity?
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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2010, 04:15:22 AM »


If Saline County Nebraska is any guide, strongly Democratic. But its the only place I know of where there is a high percentage of Czechs in one location, 23% in 2000 (although still second to Germans, with 40%)
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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2010, 07:40:45 AM »

It depended who ran the machine where they lived.
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« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2010, 06:54:55 PM »
« Edited: May 25, 2010, 07:01:09 PM by Radikale »


In my opinion, there's two different waves of Russian Immigration to the United States.

The first significant wave of Russian immigration to the United States was probably during the 1880's, when thousands of Jewish Russians fled because of nasty pogroms occurring at home. Most of them settled in East Coast cities, mainly Boston and New York. Many of them were tied to the Labor Movement, so I'd guess that the first wave of Russians were probably heavily Democratic if it came down to the two party choice. Russians were pretty prevalent in socialist and anarchist circles though.

I'd also wager they supported Teddy in 1904. They also probably swung to the Bull Moose, or maybe Debs in 1912.

The second wave, which arrived during the 1920's, is a very different story. The first wave were mostly oppressed minority victims of Imperial Russia. The second batch were mostly Middle to Upper Class refugees trying to escape the Soviet Union. One of them was even Kerensky. I'm going to guess that these groups would probably go Republican until the Great Depression.
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« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2010, 09:20:19 PM »


In my opinion, there's two different waves of Russian Immigration to the United States.

The first significant wave of Russian immigration to the United States was probably during the 1880's, when thousands of Jewish Russians fled because of nasty pogroms occurring at home. Most of them settled in East Coast cities, mainly Boston and New York. Many of them were tied to the Labor Movement, so I'd guess that the first wave of Russians were probably heavily Democratic if it came down to the two party choice. Russians were pretty prevalent in socialist and anarchist circles though.

I'd also wager they supported Teddy in 1904. They also probably swung to the Bull Moose, or maybe Debs in 1912.

The second wave, which arrived during the 1920's, is a very different story. The first wave were mostly oppressed minority victims of Imperial Russia. The second batch were mostly Middle to Upper Class refugees trying to escape the Soviet Union. One of them was even Kerensky. I'm going to guess that these groups would probably go Republican until the Great Depression.

There were also a lot of Russians who arrived in the 1990s after the collapse of the Soviet Union.
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« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2010, 09:59:08 PM »

yep nothing like a free hand out.
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« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2010, 02:29:44 PM »

yep nothing like a free hand out.

...Ok. That has nothing to do with the topic at hand, but thanks for that riveting post.
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« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2010, 05:48:26 PM »


In my opinion, there's two different waves of Russian Immigration to the United States.

The first significant wave of Russian immigration to the United States was probably during the 1880's, when thousands of Jewish Russians fled because of nasty pogroms occurring at home. Most of them settled in East Coast cities, mainly Boston and New York. Many of them were tied to the Labor Movement, so I'd guess that the first wave of Russians were probably heavily Democratic if it came down to the two party choice. Russians were pretty prevalent in socialist and anarchist circles though.

I'd also wager they supported Teddy in 1904. They also probably swung to the Bull Moose, or maybe Debs in 1912.

The second wave, which arrived during the 1920's, is a very different story. The first wave were mostly oppressed minority victims of Imperial Russia. The second batch were mostly Middle to Upper Class refugees trying to escape the Soviet Union. One of them was even Kerensky. I'm going to guess that these groups would probably go Republican until the Great Depression.

There were also a lot of Russians who arrived in the 1990s after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Most of the 1990s Russians are/were probably Democrats.
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« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2010, 12:43:10 AM »


Most of the 1990s Russians are/were probably Democrats.

really? why? what allegiance would they have to the Democrats?
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« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2010, 10:43:52 PM »


Most of the 1990s Russians are/were probably Democrats.

really? why? what allegiance would they have to the Democrats?

It just appears that many of them have become pretty successful in the U.S., often in high-tech industries, and they are also liberal on many social issues. Also, Democrats are perceived as the friendlier party to immigrants than the GOP are. Thus, I would figure most of them would vote for the Dems. I could be wrong though.
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« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2010, 12:06:18 AM »

It depended who ran the machine where they lived.

This.
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