Giuliani to visit NH

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Oh no. Give it up already, Rudy.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Sad to think that he would likely be the least right-wing GOP option should he choose to run. The GOP is moving in a very scary direction.

Ah, a Rudy supporter? Not surprising.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Sad to think that he would likely be the least right-wing GOP option should he choose to run. The GOP is moving in a very scary direction.

Ah, a Rudy supporter? Not surprising.

I didn't say that. I plan on supporting Obama's reelection effort.

Barry, Rudy, same diff.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Sad to think that he would likely be the least right-wing GOP option should he choose to run. The GOP is moving in a very scary direction.

Ah, a Rudy supporter? Not surprising.

I didn't say that. I plan on supporting Obama's reelection effort.

Barry, Rudy, same diff.

lol. Care to actually make a case for that? I'm doubting it, because it's much easier to be a rebel when your viewpoints don't have to be based on anything substantive.

I'm basing it on the fact that Barack Obama and Rudy Giuliani are virtually identical on the major issues.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Sad to think that he would likely be the least right-wing GOP option should he choose to run. The GOP is moving in a very scary direction.

Ah, a Rudy supporter? Not surprising.

I didn't say that. I plan on supporting Obama's reelection effort.

Barry, Rudy, same diff.

lol. Care to actually make a case for that? I'm doubting it, because it's much easier to be a rebel when your viewpoints don't have to be based on anything substantive.

I'm basing it on the fact that Barack Obama and Rudy Giuliani are virtually identical on the major issues.

Please elaborate...if you're capable.

Hmm, both Obama and Rudy love war, abortion, big government, reckless spending, police state policies, corporate bailouts, and are both loyal servants of Wall Street and the military-industrial complex. What exactly are the big differences between them?

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Sad to think that he would likely be the least right-wing GOP option should he choose to run. The GOP is moving in a very scary direction.

Ah, a Rudy supporter? Not surprising.

I didn't say that. I plan on supporting Obama's reelection effort.

Barry, Rudy, same diff.

lol. Care to actually make a case for that? I'm doubting it, because it's much easier to be a rebel when your viewpoints don't have to be based on anything substantive.

I'm basing it on the fact that Barack Obama and Rudy Giuliani are virtually identical on the major issues.

Please elaborate...if you're capable.

Hmm, both Obama and Rudy love war, abortion, big government, reckless spending, police state policies, corporate bailouts, and are both loyal servants of Wall Street and the military-industrial complex. What exactly are the big differences between them?

Sources? Perhaps a definition of what 'reckless spending' is outside of the usual crap about deficits. Also, can you give an example of Obama's 'state policies'? Finally, can you define 'big government' and list off some reasons as to why you think 'big government' is a bad thing (preferably backed up by historical examples relevant to your definition.

Gimme break. You know full well what I mean, and the deficit is not a "crap" issue. Now let's hear what separates the two neocon clowns so greatly.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Sad to think that he would likely be the least right-wing GOP option should he choose to run. The GOP is moving in a very scary direction.

Ah, a Rudy supporter? Not surprising.

I didn't say that. I plan on supporting Obama's reelection effort.

Barry, Rudy, same diff.

lol. Care to actually make a case for that? I'm doubting it, because it's much easier to be a rebel when your viewpoints don't have to be based on anything substantive.

I'm basing it on the fact that Barack Obama and Rudy Giuliani are virtually identical on the major issues.

Please elaborate...if you're capable.

Hmm, both Obama and Rudy love war, abortion, big government, reckless spending, police state policies, corporate bailouts, and are both loyal servants of Wall Street and the military-industrial complex. What exactly are the big differences between them?

Sources? Perhaps a definition of what 'reckless spending' is outside of the usual crap about deficits. Also, can you give an example of Obama's 'police state policies'? Finally, can you define 'big government' and list off some reasons as to why you think 'big government' is a bad thing (preferably backed up by historical examples relevant to your definition.

Gimme break. You know full well what I mean, and the deficit is not a "crap" issue. Now let's hear what separates the two neocon clowns so greatly.

Honestly, I don't have a damned idea what you mean 90% of the time... ideological platitudes tend to have that effect on people. I certainly don't have the slightest idea what Obama has done to move us closer to a 'police state' and would like a solid example of that (something with base, not a conspiracy theory).  It's only your opinion that the deficit is not a crap issue, but that's not even what I was talking about. I did discern that you were probably talking about the deficit, but I've yet to hear one person actually form a constructive argument as to why deficit spending is dangerous. Frankly, I think politicians bank on the negative connotation of the word 'deficit' to carry them through without having to clearly explain their position. Are you any better than a career politician, Libertas. Can you tell me why you feel deficits are bad?

Read my posts and threads. I deal with these issues all the time.

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LOL.

Rudy's economic policies are identical to Barry's. Of course he would say he's against them when a Democrat is proposing them. You're delusional if you don't think a President Giuliani would have proposed a "stimulus" package and "healthcare reform" bill just like George W. Bush, Obama's mentor, did.

On the issues of war, there is no room for debate. Obama loves and supports war and has refused to even rule out a nuclear strike on Iran. We are still in Iraq, Obama is escalating in Afghanistan, and he has long been eager to get involved in Pakistan too.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Sad to think that he would likely be the least right-wing GOP option should he choose to run. The GOP is moving in a very scary direction.

Ah, a Rudy supporter? Not surprising.

I didn't say that. I plan on supporting Obama's reelection effort.

Barry, Rudy, same diff.

lol. Care to actually make a case for that? I'm doubting it, because it's much easier to be a rebel when your viewpoints don't have to be based on anything substantive.

I'm basing it on the fact that Barack Obama and Rudy Giuliani are virtually identical on the major issues.

Please elaborate...if you're capable.

Hmm, both Obama and Rudy love war, abortion, big government, reckless spending, police state policies, corporate bailouts, and are both loyal servants of Wall Street and the military-industrial complex. What exactly are the big differences between them?

Sources? Perhaps a definition of what 'reckless spending' is outside of the usual crap about deficits. Also, can you give an example of Obama's 'police state policies'? Finally, can you define 'big government' and list off some reasons as to why you think 'big government' is a bad thing (preferably backed up by historical examples relevant to your definition.

Gimme break. You know full well what I mean, and the deficit is not a "crap" issue. Now let's hear what separates the two neocon clowns so greatly.

Honestly, I don't have a damned idea what you mean 90% of the time... ideological platitudes tend to have that effect on people. I certainly don't have the slightest idea what Obama has done to move us closer to a 'police state' and would like a solid example of that (something with base, not a conspiracy theory).  It's only your opinion that the deficit is not a crap issue, but that's not even what I was talking about. I did discern that you were probably talking about the deficit, but I've yet to hear one person actually form a constructive argument as to why deficit spending is dangerous. Frankly, I think politicians bank on the negative connotation of the word 'deficit' to carry them through without having to clearly explain their position. Are you any better than a career politician, Libertas. Can you tell me why you feel deficits are bad?

Read my posts and threads. I deal with these issues all the time.

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LOL.

Rudy's economic policies are identical to Barry's. Of course he would say he's against them when a Democrat is proposing them. You're delusional if you don't think a President Giuliani would have proposed a "stimulus" package and "healthcare reform" bill just like George W. Bush, Obama's mentor, did.

On the issues of war, there is no room for debate. Obama loves and supports war and has refused to even rule out a nuclear strike on Iran. We are still in Iraq, Obama is escalating in Afghanistan, and he has long been eager to get involved in Pakistan too.

If you can't argue against it, form a conspiracy theory! You're a genuine character, Libertas.

I didn't form a conspiracy theory, perdidor. You must have read the wrong post.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

I'd be uncomfortable with Guiliani as the GOP nominee.

And for good reason. He's detestable.

What makes you say that?

Rudy Giuliani hates our freedom.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

I'd be uncomfortable with Guiliani as the GOP nominee.

And for good reason. He's detestable.

What makes you say that?

Rudy Giuliani hates our freedom.

How so? I'm not a big fan of him either but I'd like to hear exactly why ppl are so against him. I have my differences with him on abortion and guns.

"We look upon authority too often and focus over and over again, for 30 or 40 or 50 years, as if there is something wrong with authority. We see only the oppressive side of authority. Maybe it comes out of our history and our background. What we don't see is that freedom is not a concept in which people can do anything they want, be anything they can be. Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do."
--Rudy Giuliani

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

I'd be uncomfortable with Guiliani as the GOP nominee.

And for good reason. He's detestable.

What makes you say that?

Rudy Giuliani hates our freedom.

How so? I'm not a big fan of him either but I'd like to hear exactly why ppl are so against him. I have my differences with him on abortion and guns.

"We look upon authority too often and focus over and over again, for 30 or 40 or 50 years, as if there is something wrong with authority. We see only the oppressive side of authority. Maybe it comes out of our history and our background. What we don't see is that freedom is not a concept in which people can do anything they want, be anything they can be. Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do."
--Rudy Giuliani

That quote is very Locke-esque, actually. We gave up our freedoms to entire society for the promise of collective security, but I'm not here to get into a philosophical discussion right now.

I see it as more Orwell-esque than Locke-esque actually.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Perhaps you do. But you'll find in most political philosophical ideologies, we will never been in a state of freedom unless the state is destroyed. I don't know about you, but I'd rather not be out in the woods fending for myself. I don't mind ceding some of my liberties for the security I get from them. The only flaw in Locke's argument is that, in his mind, you should be free to leave civil society easily if you don't like it's laws, and you can't leave the US if you don't like it that easily.

Sorry, i had to go there. No more philosophy from me.

Even if the state must exist (and I don't support it's existence), it need not exist in the radical fascist version that Il Douche supports.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

I just realized how bad some of the sentences are that i typed. This iPad is a piece of work, and it makes me seem crazy with some of the wording i used thanks to the intelligent typing corrector.

Right, blame the iPad.

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There certainly were founders who wanted and approved of a strong Federal Government if not identical to the one we have today.

Yes, counterrevolutionary traitors.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Perhaps you do. But you'll find in most political philosophical ideologies, we will never been in a state of freedom unless the state is destroyed. I don't know about you, but I'd rather not be out in the woods fending for myself. I don't mind ceding some of my liberties for the security I get from them. The only flaw in Locke's argument is that, in his mind, you should be free to leave civil society easily if you don't like it's laws, and you can't leave the US if you don't like it that easily.

Sorry, i had to go there. No more philosophy from me.

This is very true. We are free in the sense that we elect our own leaders but that is about it. However, I'm for states almost completely self governing. This would mean that if you don't like the laws in Rhode Island, then you could move to Texas. Yes, I know that is the case now, but most laws imposed on us today are from the federal government and that is not what the founders intended. Locke did not see the US that we live in today keep in mind and the founders would never reognize America today.

That's why it is important that states begin seceding from the U.S. federal regime.