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« Reply #50 on: June 07, 2010, 04:28:57 pm »
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« Reply #51 on: June 07, 2010, 04:36:28 pm »
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streets ahead

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     I suppose instead of being light-years ahead, it's merely streets ahead. We are ahead, just not by that much. Tongue
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« Reply #52 on: June 08, 2010, 03:26:57 pm »
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I don't know, as problematic as it can be it just seems to set a bad precedent to remove citizenship from certain groups of people who were born here.
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« Reply #53 on: June 09, 2010, 10:56:42 pm »
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Don't take away citizenship but make people pass a test on our constitution at age 18 whether they were born here or not. That includes people whose parents were born as citizens.
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« Reply #54 on: June 11, 2010, 02:55:06 am »
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Don't take away citizenship but make people pass a test on our constitution at age 18 whether they were born here or not. That includes people whose parents were born as citizens.

That makes no sense.  You can't treat a minor as a citizen and then revoke their citizenship at age 18 because they didn't pay attention in civics.
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« Reply #55 on: June 11, 2010, 03:41:22 am »
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The UK makes spouses learn English or no visa.  link

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« Reply #56 on: June 11, 2010, 07:59:36 am »
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For countries without birthright citizenship, what do hey do when they find an illegal family that has been living in their country for generations and has no ties to their former country?
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« Reply #57 on: June 12, 2010, 03:14:49 am »
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Don't take away citizenship but make people pass a test on our constitution at age 18 whether they were born here or not. That includes people whose parents were born as citizens.

That makes no sense.  You can't treat a minor as a citizen and then revoke their citizenship at age 18 because they didn't pay attention in civics.

That's not what I'm saying. My bad for not clarifying. No one should be a citizen at birth regardless of being here legally or illegally. At 18, people should have to take a test in order to attain full citizenship.
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« Reply #58 on: June 12, 2010, 12:37:02 pm »
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Don't take away citizenship but make people pass a test on our constitution at age 18 whether they were born here or not. That includes people whose parents were born as citizens.

That makes no sense.  You can't treat a minor as a citizen and then revoke their citizenship at age 18 because they didn't pay attention in civics.

That's not what I'm saying. My bad for not clarifying. No one should be a citizen at birth regardless of being here legally or illegally. At 18, people should have to take a test in order to attain full citizenship.

So everyone is stateless until 18?

I don't think you realize quite how bad an idea that is.
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« Reply #59 on: June 12, 2010, 11:25:31 pm »
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Don't take away citizenship but make people pass a test on our constitution at age 18 whether they were born here or not. That includes people whose parents were born as citizens.

That makes no sense.  You can't treat a minor as a citizen and then revoke their citizenship at age 18 because they didn't pay attention in civics.

You're here legally but not a citizen. You still count for your parent's taxes and go to school like you're supposed to. At 18 you can become a citizen if you pass a test on our constitution.

That's not what I'm saying. My bad for not clarifying. No one should be a citizen at birth regardless of being here legally or illegally. At 18, people should have to take a test in order to attain full citizenship.

So everyone is stateless until 18?

I don't think you realize quite how bad an idea that is.
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« Reply #60 on: June 13, 2010, 01:18:55 am »
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Don't take away citizenship but make people pass a test on our constitution at age 18 whether they were born here or not. That includes people whose parents were born as citizens.

That makes no sense.  You can't treat a minor as a citizen and then revoke their citizenship at age 18 because they didn't pay attention in civics.

That's not what I'm saying. My bad for not clarifying. No one should be a citizen at birth regardless of being here legally or illegally. At 18, people should have to take a test in order to attain full citizenship.

So everyone is stateless until 18?

I don't think you realize quite how bad an idea that is.

I don't think he understands any of the trash he writes.

Birthright citizenship is in the Constitution.  There's no going around that.
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« Reply #61 on: June 13, 2010, 01:25:01 am »
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Don't take away citizenship but make people pass a test on our constitution at age 18 whether they were born here or not. That includes people whose parents were born as citizens.

That makes no sense.  You can't treat a minor as a citizen and then revoke their citizenship at age 18 because they didn't pay attention in civics.

That's not what I'm saying. My bad for not clarifying. No one should be a citizen at birth regardless of being here legally or illegally. At 18, people should have to take a test in order to attain full citizenship.

So everyone is stateless until 18?

I don't think you realize quite how bad an idea that is.

I don't think he understands any of the trash he writes.

Birthright citizenship is in the Constitution.  There's no going around that.

Well the 14th amendment can be repealed or amended...
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« Reply #62 on: June 13, 2010, 01:30:39 am »
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Don't take away citizenship but make people pass a test on our constitution at age 18 whether they were born here or not. That includes people whose parents were born as citizens.

That makes no sense.  You can't treat a minor as a citizen and then revoke their citizenship at age 18 because they didn't pay attention in civics.

That's not what I'm saying. My bad for not clarifying. No one should be a citizen at birth regardless of being here legally or illegally. At 18, people should have to take a test in order to attain full citizenship.

So everyone is stateless until 18?

I don't think you realize quite how bad an idea that is.

I don't think he understands any of the trash he writes.

Birthright citizenship is in the Constitution.  There's no going around that.

Well the 14th amendment can be repealed or amended...

I don't think that's what's in the 14th amendment though. That banned slavery.
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« Reply #63 on: June 13, 2010, 10:33:15 am »
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Don't take away citizenship but make people pass a test on our constitution at age 18 whether they were born here or not. That includes people whose parents were born as citizens.

That makes no sense.  You can't treat a minor as a citizen and then revoke their citizenship at age 18 because they didn't pay attention in civics.

That's not what I'm saying. My bad for not clarifying. No one should be a citizen at birth regardless of being here legally or illegally. At 18, people should have to take a test in order to attain full citizenship.

So everyone is stateless until 18?

I don't think you realize quite how bad an idea that is.

I don't think he understands any of the trash he writes.

Birthright citizenship is in the Constitution.  There's no going around that.

Well the 14th amendment can be repealed or amended...

I don't think that's what's in the 14th amendment though. That banned slavery.

Here we go again...

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All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
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