Should I move to Canada?

[© tweed]

I've been considering a move to suburban Toronto for a few years now.  There are many arguments for an against the move.

For:

-Politics (Left of the US)
-Pot (Decriminalized)
-Money (I would be very well-to-do in Canada with the conversion rate and all)
-Friends (draft dodgers my dad knew still live up there to this day)

against:

-Taxes (higher % taxes)
-Friends (most of my friends remain here in greater NYC)
-I have lived in NY all my life

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What should I do?

[CTguy]

No, you shouldn't.  Instead, you should "Take your country back" as Howard Dean would say.

Instead, I think conservatives should be shipped there or to Scandinavia to see that they live with all these things they think will cause the downfall of humanity without the world collapsing.  Maybe then if they come back they would be less quick to demonize liberals in the United States and see that in the world spectrum we are just moderates.

[Siege40]

As a Canadian I should be completely unbiased (Ya, and Public Healthcare was introduced by the Republicans yesterday).

Firstly what's wrong with Left politics? Welcome to the rest of the world, a lot of countries, I mean most of them, have a more left sided view of things than the U.S. You'd likely be a Liberal or a Conservative up here.

I live currently in Suburban Toronto aka the 905 (due to our area code), specifically Brampton, about 20 km west of the big city.

There are other benefits to living in Canada, public healthcare, public education, low crime, clean, no threats of terrorism (at least not in a long time), multiculturalism, and in general a friendly view on Americans. Oh, and most of our TV is straight from America so you won't miss any of your favourite news, sitcom, or reality programs. Also the weather isn't as bad as people make it out to be, Ontario is compariable to New York, Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, places like that.

If you do decide to move here, I advise Mississauga. It is the 6th largest city in Canada and one of the fastest growing making a lot of opprotunities.

I'll think of other reasons why Canada are awesome soon enough, I've only just begun.

Siege40

[Gustaf]

Move to Sweden.

[7,052,770]

Don't abandon your country . ..

[© tweed]

Move to Sweden.

What is the American Dollar worth in Sweden?

[Gustaf]

Move to Sweden.

What is the American Dollar worth in Sweden?

About 7.5 SEK. But since you don't know what anything costs here it doesn't tell you anything, now does it?

[© tweed]

Move to Sweden.

What is the American Dollar worth in Sweden?

About 7.5 SEK. But since you don't know what anything costs here it doesn't tell you anything, now does it?

No, it doesn't.

[Gustaf]

Move to Sweden.

What is the American Dollar worth in Sweden?

About 7.5 SEK. But since you don't know what anything costs here it doesn't tell you anything, now does it?

No, it doesn't.

[ilikeverin]

I want to moved to Vancouver so I can enjoy all the benifits of Canada plus otters!  Yay!

[Nation]

As a fellow Dean supporter (I still went and voted for him in the end), I can safely say that I don't think Howard would want all of his supporters to move out of the country. The more people to echo what Dean had to say, the better chance for his ideas to be implemented.

[dazzleman]

I've been considering a move to suburban Toronto for a few years now.  There are many arguments for an against the move.

For:

-Politics (Left of the US)
-Pot (Decriminalized)
-Money (I would be very well-to-do in Canada with the conversion rate and all)
-Friends (draft dodgers my dad knew still live up there to this day)

against:

-Taxes (higher % taxes)
-Friends (most of my friends remain here in greater NYC)
-I have lived in NY all my life

----

What should I do?

I certainly wouldn't move there because of the politics.  If you have another valid reason to live there, like a good job opportunity, then it may be worth considering.

I don't think your dad's friends are a good reason to move there.  Parents' friends are not a good substitute for your own friends.

The cost of living there from what I hear is high, which could negate the financial benefits that you think you're going to get.  If you really want to be well-to-do, you could take your money and move to a nice part of the south, or in a more extreme case, to Mexico or someplace like that.

One thing against Toronto would be the weather.  It is much colder than the NY metro area.  The NY weather that is comparable is Rochester or Buffalo, and I've been there in the winter.  It would take a lot of getting used to.

I hear Toronto's a great city, but I would only move there for a great job opportunity.

[Huckleberry Finn]

You should move to Finland before Sweden.

We'll offer:

Lower taxes than Sweden
Most high-quality healthcare
Politics left of the USA, but not socialist one like in Sweden.
VERY beautiful nature, healthy food.
Low crime rate
Most people speak good English
Good golf fields

Check it out:

http://virtual.finland.fi/

Take virtual introduction from the bottom of the page. "Experience Finland"

[zachman]

Why are there so many Scandanavians on this board?

[Gustaf]

Why are there so many Scandanavians on this board?

There's 2. And does it bother you?

[Gustaf]

You should move to Finland before Sweden.

We'll offer:

Lower taxes than Sweden
Most high-quality healthcare
Politics left of the USA, but not socialist one like in Sweden.
VERY beautiful nature, healthy food.
Low crime rate
Most people speak good English
Good golf fields

Check it out:

http://virtual.finland.fi/

Take virtual introduction from the bottom of the page. "Experience Finland"

OK, that means war! We'll offer:

Better English skills than Finland

Equally good, if not better nature and food

More immigrant friendly environment

More diverse sporting, unlike Finland where there is skiing and ice hockey

And we're not that socialist...

More to follow...

[zachman]

I can't understand how Scandanavians understand American politics. Based on BBC radio, which I am forced to listen to occasionally, I do not know a thing about political parties, and how the elections work abroad.

[Gustaf]

I can't understand how Scandanavians understand American politics. Based on BBC radio, which I am forced to listen to occasionally, I do not know a thing about political parties, and how the elections work abroad.

Well, we aren't as narrow-minded as you Americans.

[zachman]

BBC world service does a terrible job covering American elections. Where do you get your news about America?

[ilikeverin]

I can't understand how Scandanavians understand American politics. Based on BBC radio, which I am forced to listen to occasionally, I do not know a thing about political parties, and how the elections work abroad.

Well, we aren't as narrow-minded as you Americans.

Actually, I agree.  I am so jealous of you Europeans

[ilikeverin]

You should move to Finland before Sweden.

We'll offer:

Lower taxes than Sweden
Most high-quality healthcare
Politics left of the USA, but not socialist one like in Sweden.
VERY beautiful nature, healthy food.
Low crime rate
Most people speak good English
Good golf fields

Check it out:

http://virtual.finland.fi/

Take virtual introduction from the bottom of the page. "Experience Finland"

OK, that means war! We'll offer:

Better English skills than Finland

Equally good, if not better nature and food

More immigrant friendly environment

More diverse sporting, unlike Finland where there is skiing and ice hockey

And we're not that socialist...

More to follow...

And more high tech jobs!  We have a whole chapter on Sweden in our Social Studies book

((join the Progressives!))

[Huckleberry Finn]

BBC world service does a terrible job covering American elections. Where do you get your news about America?

From Finnish newspapers, magazines and TV, internet, BBC World.

[Huckleberry Finn]

You should move to Finland before Sweden.

We'll offer:

Lower taxes than Sweden
Most high-quality healthcare
Politics left of the USA, but not socialist one like in Sweden.
VERY beautiful nature, healthy food.
Low crime rate
Most people speak good English
Good golf fields

Check it out:

http://virtual.finland.fi/

Take virtual introduction from the bottom of the page. "Experience Finland"

OK, that means war! We'll offer:

Better English skills than Finland

Equally good, if not better nature and food

More immigrant friendly environment

More diverse sporting, unlike Finland where there is skiing and ice hockey

And we're not that socialist...

More to follow...

And more high tech jobs!  We have a whole chapter on Sweden in our Social Studies book

((join the Progressives!))

I think that Finland is before Sweden in high tech. The world's biggest mobile phone supplier Nokia is from Finland. Sweden has only poor Ericsson.

[Gustaf]

You should move to Finland before Sweden.

We'll offer:

Lower taxes than Sweden
Most high-quality healthcare
Politics left of the USA, but not socialist one like in Sweden.
VERY beautiful nature, healthy food.
Low crime rate
Most people speak good English
Good golf fields

Check it out:

http://virtual.finland.fi/

Take virtual introduction from the bottom of the page. "Experience Finland"

OK, that means war! We'll offer:

Better English skills than Finland

Equally good, if not better nature and food

More immigrant friendly environment

More diverse sporting, unlike Finland where there is skiing and ice hockey

And we're not that socialist...

More to follow...

And more high tech jobs!  We have a whole chapter on Sweden in our Social Studies book

((join the Progressives!))

I think that Finland is before Sweden in high tech. The world's biggest mobile phone supplier Nokia is from Finland. Sweden has only poor Ericsson.

You're crossing the line here...

Ericsson is returning now...and Nokia is all you have, whereas Sweden has a lot of other high tech industries as well. And Ericsson still dominates their ral business: mobile systems.

Zachman: I get it from multilpe sources, remember that I can watch CNN and Fox News here in Sweden. And the Swedish media is following the election, an not in the biased way they used to...and I also get a lot of info from you guys...

Ilikeeverin: Sucking up to my country like that won't get me to join you, I'm afraid...

[Mr. Bison]

No You Shouldnt & If You Did Everyone In Canada Would Be Homeless Evil Bastard Rapists