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« on: June 01, 2010, 02:38:39 pm »
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/england/london/10201412.stm

Livingstone has jumped in for another go. Former MP Oona King, who lost her seat to George Galloway in 2005, is the only other declared Labour candidate right now.
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« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2010, 02:58:54 pm »
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I think that this'll be an interesting race. Labour have the advantage of opposition, like the Tories did in '08 and who knows what state the ConDems could be in come May 2012.
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« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2010, 08:28:30 am »
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Full list of declared Labour Party candidates
Seton During (Party Activist, Former Enfield councillor & Chartered Engineer).
Oona King
Ken Livingstone
Emmanuel Okoro (Party Activist & Artist).

Basically its a two horse race between King and Livingstone. More info:-
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/10343953.stm
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« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2010, 01:25:47 pm »
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UNITE has endorsed Ken Livingstone. Lembit Opik has said that he will seek the Liberal Democrats' nomination.

Is there anyone who actually thinks that the London Mayoral Election is a non-joke?
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« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2010, 01:39:42 pm »
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UNITE has endorsed Ken Livingstone. Lemit Opik has said that he will seek the Liberal Democrats' nomination.

Is there anyone who actually thinks that the London Mayoral Election is a non-joke?

Lembit and Boris? Oh, this'll be good.
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« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2010, 02:51:17 pm »

Opik doesn't get it, does he. Can anyone think of a worse case of political tin-ear?
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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2010, 04:34:49 am »
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The London mayoral election is much like a caricature of both parties really.

That said, Livingstone to win Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2010, 11:37:48 am »
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Lembit Opik has said that he will seek the Liberal Democrats' nomination.

Doesn't he live in Wales?
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« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2010, 02:24:57 pm »
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If I was a London, I would probably vote Oona King over Boris Johnson. But Labour will never pick her. They need to keep Ken's belly rubbed...and theres a lot of interest groups begging to get back into favour...
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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2010, 06:43:27 pm »

King would struggle anyway; she doesn't seem to have much in the way of institutional support (yes, she has a lot of MPs onside, but they play no role in selecting candidates at any level). I mean, stranger things have happened, but an upset looks unlikely. Livingstone is also likely to be elected to the NEC.
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« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2010, 01:46:50 pm »
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If by some miracle King does win the nomination, then Livingstone would stand as an Independent again as in 2000. This time though Mayor Johnson would be re-elected easily with King and Livingstone fighting it out for 2nd place. Although the governing party traditionally does poorly in local elections, the Tories would be saved due to the rupture in the Labour party due to Livingstone going rogue. As for the LibDem selection, there's no way Opik will be selected. IMHO the LibDems would select somebody local such as Simon Hughes MP or Lynne Featherstone MP.
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« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2010, 06:11:56 pm »
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If by some miracle King does win the nomination, then Livingstone would stand as an Independent again as in 2000. This time though Mayor Johnson would be re-elected easily with King and Livingstone fighting it out for 2nd place. Although the governing party traditionally does poorly in local elections, the Tories would be saved due to the rupture in the Labour party due to Livingstone going rogue.

Is that really a problem with the preference system though?
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« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2010, 06:14:36 pm »
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If by some miracle King does win the nomination, then Livingstone would stand as an Independent again as in 2000. This time though Mayor Johnson would be re-elected easily with King and Livingstone fighting it out for 2nd place. Although the governing party traditionally does poorly in local elections, the Tories would be saved due to the rupture in the Labour party due to Livingstone going rogue.

Is that really a problem with the preference system though?

Yes, because of the fake IRV. If someone were to vote, say for the Green candidate and then for King, their vote wouldn't count in the event of a Johnson–Livingstone runoff.
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« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2010, 06:39:43 pm »

It's also entirely possible that both camps would refuse to work with each other; and in order for any transfer system (and especially this sick joke) that's sort-of needed.
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« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2010, 08:17:00 pm »

Idris Elba, the actor who played Stringer Bell in The Wire, has endorsed King as has the historian and ubiquitous TV personality Simon Schama.
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« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2010, 04:38:21 am »

Livingstone 68.6
King 31.4

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Membership: L 32.97, K 17.03
Affiliates: L 35.634, K 14.366

Ken Livingstone is Labour's candidate for London Mayor.
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« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2010, 05:03:37 am »
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Thats Boris' chances of re-election shot up then.
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« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2010, 08:46:22 am »
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Thats Boris' chances of re-election shot up then.

Not really.
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Yes, really
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« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2010, 06:59:36 pm »
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It was pretty clear that Ken was going to get the candidacy anyway. Why would confirmation of this "shoot up" Boris's chances?
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« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2010, 03:59:08 am »
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There's a reason she lost to Galloway, you know. The woman is fairly unelectable.
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« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2010, 05:46:06 am »
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There's a reason she lost to Galloway, you know. The woman is fairly unelectable.

It was only a narrow defeat in fairly unique circumstances.

There's also a reason Ken lost to Boris in 2008; the Labour assembly vote only dropped 2%.

Time to hold my nose and vote for him yet again.
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« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2010, 10:04:41 am »

It's ages away yet, but we have our first YouGov poll already: Johnson 46, Livingstone 44, Unknown LibDem 4.
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« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2010, 10:09:34 am »
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The 'Others' outpolling the Lib Dems = LOL.
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