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« Reply #175 on: May 04, 2012, 04:44:02 pm »
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Use electronic counting machines, they said.

It'll make it quicker, they said.
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« Reply #176 on: May 04, 2012, 04:46:58 pm »
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I mean, this still is probably a whole lot quicker than a hand count.
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« Reply #177 on: May 04, 2012, 04:50:20 pm »
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Adam Boulton: "It's more like David Brent than anything in Brent and Harrow."

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« Reply #178 on: May 04, 2012, 05:24:07 pm »
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The boxes are now all counted.  All 14 GLA constituencies declared, Mayoral result shortly (for some value of shortly).
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There cannot have been a by-election here, as I didn't see an Andrew Teale writeup on it. Or else that by-election's validity should be challenged on the grounds that it was held without Andrew's written approval
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« Reply #179 on: May 04, 2012, 05:29:28 pm »
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The boxes are now all counted.  All 14 GLA constituencies declared, Mayoral result shortly (for some value of shortly).

Just how difficult could a Lab-Grn majority in the GLA hypothetically make Boris' life? I understand it takes a 2/3rds majority (!) to block a mayor's budget?
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« Reply #180 on: May 04, 2012, 05:31:03 pm »
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Use electronic counting machines, they said.

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Yeah, I've never understood that either. Can't be that difficult to just count the damn things normally...
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« Reply #181 on: May 04, 2012, 05:40:04 pm »
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Use electronic counting machines, they said.

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Yeah, I've never understood that either. Can't be that difficult to just count the damn things normally...

Never underestimate the ability of London to mess up a count.
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« Reply #182 on: May 04, 2012, 05:46:52 pm »
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The bad thing for the government is that the narrative's alright set and London won't change it now. In the end, if Thursday had been a General Election, Ed Miliband would already be Prime Minister. I wonder who would've put money on results like these, just two years after the party's second worst result since the war...
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« Reply #183 on: May 04, 2012, 05:49:30 pm »
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Might have done if I gambled, but I don't.
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« Reply #184 on: May 04, 2012, 05:52:46 pm »
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Press Association: Sources say Boris has been re-elected. Shock, horror.
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« Reply #185 on: May 04, 2012, 06:00:20 pm »
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Boris Johnson - 1,054,811

Ken Livingstone - 992,273


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« Reply #186 on: May 04, 2012, 06:00:43 pm »
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Final result 51.5 to 48.5
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« Reply #187 on: May 04, 2012, 06:01:19 pm »
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Boris did not just do the May the 4th result. Christ.
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« Reply #188 on: May 04, 2012, 06:06:30 pm »
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Ken giving a sombre, yet nice speech.

Still, I would've voted for Benita.
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« Reply #189 on: May 04, 2012, 07:26:35 pm »
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Final London Assembly totals:

Labour: 12
Conservatives: 9
Liberal Democrats: 2
Greens: 2

UKIP (and BNP) shut out
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« Reply #190 on: May 04, 2012, 08:58:27 pm »
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This is disconcertingly close, and they lost the Assembly too. But it will not be as close as the French election.
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« Reply #191 on: May 05, 2012, 03:40:12 am »
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First round count is Johnson 44.1, Livingstone 40.3. Livingstone adds second prefs of 29.5% of the first round others, Johnson 23.9 (or 55.3-44.7 of valid second pref.s, not a meaningful number). This gives a final tally of 47.8-44.9 (of people who cast a valid first round vote. 51.6-48.4 of valid second round votes, not a meaningful number either) and Johnson elected without a quota.
Incidentally, though no one has polled a majority on the first round before, this is the first time the winner "needed second preferences", ie his first round tally was less than the runner-up's second round tally.
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« Reply #192 on: May 05, 2012, 05:44:26 am »
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So, who would like to be the first to tell everyone what's wrong with the BBC's map of the assembly results?
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« Reply #193 on: May 05, 2012, 05:50:24 am »
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Lack of shading? It's correct as far as its information content goes as far as I can see.

Oh, or maybe you mean the fact that it misleadingly shows the borough lines yet is colored in by constituency.
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« Reply #194 on: May 05, 2012, 06:03:15 am »
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The level of ticket splitting in Barnet & Camden is pretty hilarious.
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« Reply #195 on: May 05, 2012, 06:51:54 am »
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That's the only place where there's a real difference between the list and direct votes (for Tories and Labour that is.) Andrew Dismore '16?
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« Reply #196 on: May 05, 2012, 07:33:16 am »
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The boxes are now all counted.  All 14 GLA constituencies declared, Mayoral result shortly (for some value of shortly).

Just how difficult could a Lab-Grn majority in the GLA hypothetically make Boris' life? I understand it takes a 2/3rds majority (!) to block a mayor's budget?

It takes a two-thirds majority for them to amend the mayor's budget or any of his statutory provisions. Otherwise, they only have the power to investigate, question, and advise. To get 2/3 Labour and Green would need both Lib Dems and a Conservative defector somehow.

The only thing I can think of that could maybe get the required supermajority would be if Labour decided to push for some sort of local initiative/referendum process- they'd presumably get Lib Dem support and could probably get Andrew Boff to buck his party on the issue.
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« Reply #197 on: May 05, 2012, 09:15:50 am »
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Lack of shading? It's correct as far as its information content goes as far as I can see.

Oh, or maybe you mean the fact that it misleadingly shows the borough lines yet is colored in by constituency.

The latter was what I was getting at, I briefly though Labour had won Hillingdon, Harrow and Barnet..
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« Reply #198 on: May 05, 2012, 11:24:51 am »
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I hope they release ward data again this time, last time I created a map, assigning wards based on the total vote by borough and giving smaller parties their best wards, I never uploaded it here though and hard disk failures mean I've lost it
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« Reply #199 on: May 05, 2012, 11:30:41 am »
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They'll be released in a couple of days, apparently.
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