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« on: June 03, 2010, 11:57:57 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2010, 01:03:05 AM »

     Yeah, these are messed up laws. It is already so hard to get many juries out there to actually consider that the police can do wrong in the line of duty, I can easily see more officers beating people up & getting away with it. As it stands, the videorecording is one of the best weapons there is against police brutality.
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« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2010, 02:19:05 AM »

Hope I don't get beat up by the police Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2010, 05:22:12 AM »

Isn't this basically admiting to the public that the police in these three states are up to no good and the political powers in the state know it and sanction it?
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« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2010, 05:56:46 AM »

Isn't this basically admiting to the public that the police in these three states are up to no good and the political powers in the state know it and sanction it?

Yes, not that these three states have a monopoly on police brutality, of course. (Is this even constitutional? Seems like it'd be easy to challenge, doesn't it?)
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« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2010, 06:12:05 AM »

Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. Why haven't the Supremes seen this yet?
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« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2010, 07:45:02 AM »

Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. Why haven't the Supremes seen this yet?

Probably because it hasn't even gotten to the point where he's been tried in the lower court yet.  It might make its way up the food chain, deadone.
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« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2010, 12:31:21 PM »

Actualy I'm surprised the ACLU isn't all jumpin' ugly about this.........
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« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2010, 02:34:30 PM »

Actualy I'm surprised the ACLU isn't all jumpin' ugly about this.........

Because it's the liberal states that are doing it! Tongue
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« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2010, 02:43:42 PM »

Actualy I'm surprised the ACLU isn't all jumpin' ugly about this.........

Because it's the liberal states that are doing it! Tongue

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« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2010, 04:11:32 PM »

Isn't this basically admiting to the public that the police in these three states are up to no good and the political powers in the state know it and sanction it?

Police in all 50 states and DC are up to no good. Of course they don't want to be caught on camera lest the world see what criminal pieces of trash they really are.
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« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2010, 04:43:55 PM »

Isn't this basically admiting to the public that the police in these three states are up to no good and the political powers in the state know it and sanction it?

Police in all 50 states and DC are up to no good. Of course they don't want to be caught on camera lest the world see what criminal pieces of trash they really are.

So all cops are criminal pieces of trash that serve no legitimate purpose?
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« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2010, 06:30:14 PM »

Someone should challenge this awful law. Cops don't deserve any privacy if performing acts in the line of duty. The whole world should be watching ideally, no?  I want video cameras in the Orange County jail, and plan to make my move in that direction soon. The campaign is about to begin!  Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2010, 08:53:13 AM »
« Edited: June 07, 2010, 10:53:27 PM by Lunar »

What about security cameras?

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Um, really?  Is there an expectation of privacy when you pull someone over on a public road for a traffic stop?

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That's more of an injustice than being framed.
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« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2010, 09:08:22 AM »

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Um, really?  Is there an expectation of privacy when you pull someone over on a public road for a traffic stop?

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That's most of an injustice than being framed.

15 years?

As if the recording being a crime in the first place wasn't bad enough....
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« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2010, 10:07:29 AM »

Wow, not the states I'd expect to do this.  Cops don't need protection, the people do.  I can't wait for this to be completely denied.
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« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2010, 04:40:38 AM »

The question I have is how long until these laws get challenged.
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« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2010, 08:01:37 AM »
« Edited: June 07, 2010, 11:36:56 AM by Grumps »

The question I have is how long until these laws get challenged.

Well the ACLU usually doesn't wait for a lower court case to start litigating.........but other than them, there is a long process to make it up the line.......could be quite some time.
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« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2010, 08:40:07 PM »

For those questioning the ACLU, they are, in fact, providing legal counsel in the very case that the initial post was about:

http://www.aclu.org/free-speech/aclu-defends-rights-citizens-monitor-police-representing-motorcyclist-prosecuted-state-p
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« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2010, 08:59:45 PM »

For those questioning the ACLU, they are, in fact, providing legal counsel in the very case that the initial post was about:

http://www.aclu.org/free-speech/aclu-defends-rights-citizens-monitor-police-representing-motorcyclist-prosecuted-state-p

Excellent, Schroeder!  Thank you for finding this....
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« Reply #20 on: June 07, 2010, 10:52:22 PM »

And people bash the ACLU because they sometimes get silly about small stuff?

ACLU are ff's through and through.  If I were a wealthy man, I'd donate to them.
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« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2010, 04:22:31 AM »

And people bash the ACLU because they sometimes get silly about small stuff?

ACLU are ff's through and through.  If I were a wealthy man, I'd donate to them.

They can get annoying....really annoying......but they serve a noble purpose, and I'm glad they exist.

I'd rather people demand to many constitutional rights than not enough.
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« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2010, 05:56:03 AM »

This screams "unconstitutional" to me.
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« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2010, 07:20:39 AM »

And people bash the ACLU because they sometimes get silly about small stuff?

ACLU are ff's through and through.  If I were a wealthy man, I'd donate to them.

Yes, I'm a basher over the small stuff.......this isn't small.
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« Reply #24 on: June 08, 2010, 08:43:08 AM »

I find myself wondering whether or not there could be a jury stupid enough to convict on this.
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