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Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook
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« on: June 04, 2010, 03:19:37 PM »

Of all the presidents of the last 100 years, only Taft, the 1920's Republicans, and Carter saw no war durring their presidencies. Depending on how you count Vietnam, JFK and Ford could be added.

Will this ever happen again?
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« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2010, 03:54:26 PM »

Of all the presidents of the last 100 years, only Taft, the 1920's Republicans, and Carter saw no war durring their presidencies. Depending on how you count Vietnam, JFK and Ford could be added.

Will this ever happen again?

Ehhh, probably not for a while. Someone somewhere's always going to claim that the war on terror is still going on.
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« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2010, 06:20:03 PM »

Never. We've always been at war with Oceania Eastasia Terrorism.
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« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2010, 06:36:16 PM »

Of all the presidents of the last 100 years, only Taft, the 1920's Republicans, and Carter saw no war durring their presidencies. Depending on how you count Vietnam, JFK and Ford could be added.

Will this ever happen again?

Which wars were Teddy Roosevelt, Reagan, and Clinton involved in? As to answer your question, either the next President after Obama or the President after that.
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« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2010, 06:45:25 PM »

Of all the presidents of the last 100 years, only Taft, the 1920's Republicans, and Carter saw no war durring their presidencies. Depending on how you count Vietnam, JFK and Ford could be added.

Will this ever happen again?

Which wars were Teddy Roosevelt, Reagan, and Clinton involved in? As to answer your question, either the next President after Obama or the President after that.


Reagan had Grenada and Clinton had Gulf War 1. TR was more than 100 years ago.
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« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2010, 06:51:05 PM »

There won't be one in the near future. The United States intervenes in conflicts (Whether they are "peacekeeping" or taking action against a rogue state) quite often, and will continue to do so.

Of all the presidents of the last 100 years, only Taft, the 1920's Republicans, and Carter saw no war durring their presidencies. Depending on how you count Vietnam, JFK and Ford could be added.

Will this ever happen again?

Which wars were Teddy Roosevelt, Reagan, and Clinton involved in? As to answer your question, either the next President after Obama or the President after that.


Reagan had Grenada and Clinton had Gulf War 1. TR was more than 100 years ago.

Aren't you thinking of Bush Sr. in the middle of your post? He was president during the First Persian Gulf War.

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« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2010, 06:58:53 PM »

There won't be one in the near future. The United States intervenes in conflicts (Whether they are "peacekeeping" or taking action against a rogue state) quite often, and will continue to do so.

Of all the presidents of the last 100 years, only Taft, the 1920's Republicans, and Carter saw no war durring their presidencies. Depending on how you count Vietnam, JFK and Ford could be added.

Will this ever happen again?

Which wars were Teddy Roosevelt, Reagan, and Clinton involved in? As to answer your question, either the next President after Obama or the President after that.


Reagan had Grenada and Clinton had Gulf War 1. TR was more than 100 years ago.

Aren't you thinking of Bush Sr. in the middle of your post? He was president during the First Persian Gulf War.



Grenada wasn't a formal war. It was more of a military operation. Same with Panama (which could be what he is talking about with Bush Sr.). Clinton did not have any wars that occured his watch. (As NiK previously mentioned, the Gulf War of 1990-1991 occured under Bush Sr.
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« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2010, 07:07:44 PM »

Well, some sources have Gulf War 1 ending in 1995, so I guess it's like Vietnam when it depends on where you place it.
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« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2010, 07:08:58 PM »

Well, some sources have Gulf War 1 ending in 1995, so I guess it's like Vietnam when it depends on where you place it.

Those sources are stupid. The U.S. removed most of its troops from the Persian Gulf in 1991.
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« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2010, 07:22:28 PM »

1995 is the offical end date for Operation Desert Storm, so they probably counted that as part of it.
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« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2010, 07:47:21 PM »

1995 is the offical end date for Operation Desert Storm, so they probably counted that as part of it.

De facto, Operation Desert Storm ended in 1991. And all the sources I use show the Persian Gulf War lasting from 1990 to 1991.
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« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2010, 07:56:00 PM »

Well, I guess you're right.

So Clinton is a peacetime president, but will it happen again?
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« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2010, 07:59:37 PM »

Well, I guess you're right.

So Clinton is a peacetime president, but will it happen again?

I'd say Yes. Once the U.S. gets out of Afghanistan and Iraq, it will be cautious to avoid other conflicts. And I'm not sure I would count Grenada as a war--it was more of a small-scale military operation (similar to Clinton's bombings of Serbia).
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« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2010, 09:21:48 PM »

If we're not counting stuff like the Kosovo conflict as a "war" from the US side, then it'll probably happen as soon as the US withdraws from Afghanistan.
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« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2010, 11:23:42 PM »

If we're not counting stuff like the Kosovo conflict as a "war" from the US side, then it'll probably happen as soon as the US withdraws from Afghanistan.


Assuming the U.S. has withdrawn from Iraq before withdrawing from Afghanistan. When do you think the U.S. will withdraw from both those countries?
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« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2010, 03:29:17 AM »

If we're not counting stuff like the Kosovo conflict as a "war" from the US side, then it'll probably happen as soon as the US withdraws from Afghanistan.


Assuming the U.S. has withdrawn from Iraq before withdrawing from Afghanistan. When do you think the U.S. will withdraw from both those countries?

According to the status of forces agreement, the US is supposed to withdraw from Iraq by the end of 2011.  Even if that deadline isn't met, the number of remaining troops and the scope of their mission will be narrow enough that it won't count as "fighting a war" any more than the US mission in Somalia from 1992-93 was "fighting a war".

With Afghanistan, I really have no idea.  Obviously, it will continue beyond 2011.  Beyond that, I don't know.  That's why I started this thread:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=117627.0
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« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2010, 05:16:25 AM »

Of course it will happen, and the sooner will be the better.
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« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2010, 06:51:13 PM »

Not for awhile.


If all of these economic fixes don't work...somebody might cook up war somewhere to stimulate the economy.
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« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2010, 09:50:59 PM »

There are already plenty of wars going on. I don't think a new war will fix things.
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« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2010, 10:23:23 PM »

I don't think for a while. This country hasn't been at peace since the 1920's.
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« Reply #20 on: June 12, 2010, 10:49:09 PM »

There are already plenty of wars going on. I don't think a new war will fix things.
There is never enough war for some people. We are a species that likes war. That's been proven throughout the centuries.
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« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2010, 11:02:43 PM »

There are already plenty of wars going on. I don't think a new war will fix things.
There is never enough war for some people. We are a species that likes war. That's been proven throughout the centuries.

It's unfortunate but as long as there is religion and money there will be war in the name of both. War is the natural order of things.
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« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2010, 12:12:17 AM »

I don't think for a while. This country hasn't been at peace since the 1920's.

1930-1941, 1975-1990, 1991-2001.
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« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2010, 12:41:33 AM »

I don't think for a while. This country hasn't been at peace since the 1920's.

1930-1941, 1975-1990, 1991-2001.

Carter, Ford, and Eisenhower all had terms of relative peace. The last truly peaceful era though was during the sequential administrations of Harding, Coolidge, and Hoover, in between the reigns of terror of sadistic warmongers Woodrow Wilson and Franklin Roosevelt.
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« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2010, 12:44:58 AM »

Like I said earlier, it kind of depends on how you count Vietnam. Reagan and Clinton were relativly peacetime too, as Grenada wasn't a true war and Desert Storm was De Facto over by the time Clinton showed up.
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