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Derek
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« on: June 13, 2010, 10:13:51 PM »

Why are they almost always bad.

Bush- Katrina, Iraq
Clinton- Impeached
Reagan- Iran contra
Nixon- Watergate
LBJ*- Vietnam
Ike- Economic downturn. GOP loses very badly in '58
Truman*- Korea
FDR- Supreme Court packing plan
Wilson- League of Nations failure.

Coincidence or something more.

*Not a second term. But were incumbents who were reelected.

Every member of this site should be reading this one. ^^ Good point! I never thought I'd agree with you, but good point!
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« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2010, 10:15:08 PM »

And don't forget McKinley and Lincoln's second terms either.
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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2010, 11:53:24 AM »

I will say that Eisenhower, Reagan, and Clinton had successful second terms for the most part.
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« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2010, 06:30:35 PM »

I will say that Eisenhower, Reagan, and Clinton had successful second terms for the most part.

Ike-1958 and 1960 recessions
Reagan-Iran-Contra
Clinton-Impeachment

Those are all minor. I've never heard anything bad about the 50's. How bad of a recession was it. The 1960 Presidential Election made the US look like heaven so Ike must have left on a good note. Ronald Reagan wasn't effected badly by that scandal and obviously recovered in no time. Clinton was popular when he left office because the GOP fell for his trick and went after his affair when there were 900 other things he could've been impeached for.
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« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2010, 07:24:05 PM »

I will say that Eisenhower, Reagan, and Clinton had successful second terms for the most part.

Ike-1958 and 1960 recessions
Reagan-Iran-Contra
Clinton-Impeachment

Those are all minor. I've never heard anything bad about the 50's. How bad of a recession was it. The 1960 Presidential Election made the US look like heaven so Ike must have left on a good note. Ronald Reagan wasn't effected badly by that scandal and obviously recovered in no time. Clinton was popular when he left office because the GOP fell for his trick and went after his affair when there were 900 other things he could've been impeached for.


900 Things? Really? Didnt Kenneth Star investigate him for 8 years and spend 80 million dollars, and didnt come up with one thing except for the lying under oath. Talk about a witch hunt. Too bad we didnt have an independent counsel when Dubya was in office. I would love to have seen that investigation, and trial that would have resulted.

1. He ATTEMPTED TO LEGALIZE DOMESTIC SPYING after the Oklahoma City bombing. Nixon was accused of this in WATERGATE!!! (This could've been avoided without Waco.)
2. He issues an executive order to SEARCH PUBLIC HOUSING WITHOUT A WARRANT.
3. Communications "Decency Act" which would've outlawed discussing abortion online.
4. The David Koresh raid. Koresh COULD'VE BEEN ARRESTED IN THAT TOWN instead of the ridiculous riots that took place at his home. There would've been NO OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING without the Waco incident.
5. He made up the bogus accusation of child abuse to storm into Waco which IS NOT A FEDERAL OFFENSE. Texas was capable of taking care of that themselves.
6. WARS IN HAITI, SOMALIA, and BOSNIA WITHOUT A CLEAR PURPOSE (Bush was clear as to why we invaded Iraq).
7. The appointment of Janet Reno who participated in MISTREATING PRISONERS in Dade County. Oh that's right, it's ok to MISTREAT PRISONERS as long as they are AMERICAN CITIZENS. He had a second class view of American citizens.
8. Clinton sent terror suspects to countries where they could be TORTURED!!!
9. White House for sale. He rented rooms in the White House to foreigners and used the money towards his 1996 reelection campaign.
10. No effort was done to understand McVeigh's motivations.
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« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2010, 08:27:09 PM »

I wish Bush would've been more like his first term in his second term.
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« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2010, 09:58:38 PM »

I wish Bush would've been more like his first term in his second term.

I really cant say it was any worse than is first, unlike some people I understand Katrina wasnt his fault. He cant controll a hurricane, and for the first week they couldnt do anything till the waters resended. Those people knew what was coming, they shoulda left.

There's more than just that. I agree with Katrina and while the government's response was bad I also am sick of hearing about it. He stopped advancing his agenda about a year after he got reelected. The last push for conservatism was when he tried to privatize social security.
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