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politicaladdict
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« on: June 18, 2010, 11:21:21 PM »

For all your national health care and insurance propponents out there!

How is the "general welfare" "necessary and proper " and "regulating commerce" clause justify national health care and mandating americans to buy health insurance?

Some mannequins aka dummies, have even stated "Life, Liberty and Pursuit of Happyness" which isn't even part of the law-making constitution.

here's  some sources that goes into detail.

Is National Health Insurance Constitutional? | The Foundry: Conservative Policy News.
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http://california.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2010/05/general-welfare-does-not-include-national-healthcare/


1: General Welfare Cluase

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So basically, progressives like to use "general welfare" as a means but never point what the founders met and how "general welfare" was define.

Why don't they just rename all government-controlled hospitals and the health-care system to "post-office" I mean, you wait in line, anyways!!

2: Necessary and Proper Cluase

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3: Regulating Commerce

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I could be wrong, but I think The "Executive" branch will have oversight over the health-care system and this is not even part of the "Legislative" articles.

And no one give me that "not national health care just regulation" crap because this is far reaching, either way!
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« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2010, 02:00:33 AM »

For all your national health care and insurance propponents out there!

How is the "general welfare" "necessary and proper " and "regulating commerce" clause justify national health care and mandating americans to buy health insurance?

Some mannequins aka dummies, have even stated "Life, Liberty and Pursuit of Happyness" which isn't even part of the law-making constitution.

here's  some sources that goes into detail.

Is National Health Insurance Constitutional? | The Foundry: Conservative Policy News.
and
http://california.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2010/05/general-welfare-does-not-include-national-healthcare/


1: General Welfare Cluase

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and this...

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So basically, progressives like to use "general welfare" as a means but never point what the founders met and how "general welfare" was define.

Why don't they just rename all government-controlled hospitals and the health-care system to "post-office" I mean, you wait in line, anyways!!

2: Necessary and Proper Cluase

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3: Regulating Commerce

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I could be wrong, but I think The "Executive" branch will have oversight over the health-care system and this is not even part of the "Legislative" articles.

And no one give me that "not national health care just regulation" crap because this is far reaching, either way!

I dont know what the fat chick rapist things mean, but hes right Obamacare is unconstitutional, and once it gets in the federal courts it will be struck down.
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« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2010, 03:11:42 AM »

I dont know what the fat chick rapist things mean, but hes right Obamacare is unconstitutional, and once it gets in the federal courts it will be struck down.

Let's just say that you can tell a lot about someone by the porn he watches.
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« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2010, 08:09:58 AM »

So my family is going to lose some of this benefits just because the supreme court might think that the health care law should be ruled in unconstitutional? Anyone he takes something from me can go DIAF in my opinion.
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« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2010, 01:52:30 PM »

So my family is going to lose some of this benefits just because the supreme court might think that the health care law should be ruled in unconstitutional? Anyone he takes something from me can go DIAF in my opinion.

Oh right... Just like Mexico when the illegals are given benefits from the government with tax money and takes billions back to Mexico with them?
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« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2010, 01:56:34 PM »

So my family is going to lose some of this benefits just because the supreme court might think that the health care law should be ruled in unconstitutional? Anyone he takes something from me can go DIAF in my opinion.

You're not entitled to anything, who do you think you are?
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« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2010, 02:10:35 PM »

Yes. I sure didn't see anything in the Constitution to say it wouldn't be.
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« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2010, 02:21:44 PM »

Oh right... Just like Mexico when the illegals are given benefits from the government with tax money and takes billions back to Mexico with them?

Why are you back here? 

It's not like there's any women at this site, much less the fat chicks you prefer to see raped.
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« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2010, 02:24:15 PM »
« Edited: June 19, 2010, 02:27:39 PM by Morgan »

I actually agree, here.  The General Welfare clause is not a blank check for the federal government to do whatever it wants.

"With respect to the words "general welfare," I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."

-James Madison.

And it is not a matter of simply calling everything we don't like "unconstitutional."
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« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2010, 06:44:25 PM »

Locking this thread because it has gone off topic into offensive subjects.
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