Given Rassmussen's enormous credibility problems/extreme outliers...

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

...what would everyone's thoughts be on no longer including them in the polling database?

I think it makes sense at this point.

[Tender Branson]

No.

[Rowan]

No.

[Sam Spade]

lol

[SvenssonRS]

Thanks for proving just how massive a hack you are.

[J. J.]

It has actually been more staple than Gallup and PPP.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

No.

(also)

lol

[cinyc]

Rasmussen has no credibility problem.  He is polling likely voters while others are still polling registered voters.  Likely voters tend to be more Republican in most cycles.  And because trends matter more than actual numbers at this point, knowing if likely voters are trending more Republican or Democratic at this point than mere registered voters in other polls is an important piece of information.

Better idea: why don't we just exclude any poll that isn't good for the Democrats from the polling database.  That's what you really want.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

The reason why it is not only no, but HELL NO is because we know why they are so off and we can be reasonably sure that they will become more accurate as we get close to end.

1) They poll LIKELY VOTERS, wow

2) They have a TIGHT VOTER SCREEN, uhh ahhh


These will produce some differences with other polls, but there methods are well known and we have no reason to toss out a poll that has been dead on accurate three election years  running, in the end of the season, based on polls six months from the election and the talking points of leftwing media outlets.

Please lets stop the echo chamber in these parts of the forum and start thinking for yourselves.

Whats next SurveyUSA, PPP.

I suppose we shall only include R2K polls from now on? They are the ones with a credibility problem, not Rasmussen. Rassy knows how his system works and hence his unwillingness to risk his credibility this far out, such caution isn't surprising.

[RIP Robert H Bork]

Thanks for proving just how massive a hack you are.

Also, what cinyc said.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     We can all question the wisdom of polling likely voters this far from election day, but it seems ridiculously rash to stop entering Rasmussen polls given his historically strong track record &, as Yankee pointed out, actual valid reason for being off this far out.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Actually, except for the PA senate and OH governor races, the PPP and Rasmussen have been on the same page up until this point on polling.

The poll in Nevada was accurate.

[Franzl]

The poll in Nevada was accurate.

How do you know?

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Thanks for proving just how massive a hack you are.

Also, what cinyc said.

Yeah, that totally must be why I created this thread.  It couldn't possibly be because I was genuinely floating an idea.     Look it's one thing if you are going to give reasons why this would be a bad idea, as Give'em Hell Yankee, PiT, J.J., and Cynic did (although Cynic couldn't help throwing in a juvenile insult at the end).  It's another if you can't defend your position so you resort to name-calling like Officepark and SvenssonRS .  For the record, I consider R2K much worse than Rasmussen.  And in hindsight this was a bad idea, and I'll be the first to admit that.  But that's all it was: a well-intentioned bad idea, not some big conspiracy to inflate Democratic numbers.  I know this forum has hacks on both sides, but I'm not one of them.  A bad idea is not the same as partisan hackery, and its sad if some of us have become so jaded that we think everyone is looking to twist the facts and distort reality.  I'm only human.  I like to think that I'm rather intelligent, but even the smartest poster on the forum (which I most certainly am not) makes a dead-wrong call or has a really bad idea every now and then.  I had a bad idea, I'll be the first to admit that.  But I resent these accusations that I'm some hack trying to pervert the facts so they fit some self-delusion.  Hopefully, some of you aren't so cynical and jaded that you see a conspiracy behind even the most well-intentioned mistakes.  And to those of you that are that cynical, I feel sorry for you!

[RIP Robert H Bork]

Thanks for proving just how massive a hack you are.

Also, what cinyc said.

Yeah, that totally must be why I created this thread.  It couldn't possibly be because I was genuinely floating an idea.     Look it's one thing if you are going to give reasons why this would be a bad idea, as Give'em Hell Yankee, PiT, J.J., and Cynic did (although Cynic couldn't help throwing in a juvenile insult at the end).  It's another if you can't defend your position so you resort to name-calling like Officepark and SvenssonRS .  For the record, I consider R2K much worse than Rasmussen.  And in hindsight this was a bad idea, and I'll be the first to admit that.  But that's all it was: a well-intentioned bad idea, not some big conspiracy to inflate Democratic numbers.  I know this forum has hacks on both sides, but I'm not one of them.  A bad idea is not the same as partisan hackery, and its sad if some of us have become so jaded that we think everyone is looking to twist the facts and distort reality.  I'm only human.  I like to think that I'm rather intelligent, but even the smartest poster on the forum (which I most certainly am not) makes a dead-wrong call or has a really bad idea every now and then.  I had a bad idea, I'll be the first to admit that.  But I resent these accusations that I'm some hack trying to pervert the facts so they fit some self-delusion.  Hopefully, some of you aren't so cynical and jaded that you see a conspiracy behind even the most well-intentioned mistakes.  And to those of you that are that cynical, I feel sorry for you!

Fine, fine, I too am wrong, I apologize. So you're not a hack after all.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

PPP has an outstanding record on predicting races and they are on par with Rasmussen on most races except for OH and PA, since they haven't polled a Nevada senate race poll, Rasmussen poll, is the one to look at, not the Kos poll.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

PPP has an outstanding record on predicting races and they are on par with Rasmussen on most races except for OH and PA, since they haven't polled a Nevada senate race poll, Rasmussen poll, is the one to look at, not the Kos poll.

I am curious as to why they have different results in OH. I am looking to see if Kasich shows any momentum in OH, Rassy had him tied while everyone else had him down, now Rassy has him up by 5 or 6. Another poll or two showing some movement from a different company would confirm my hunch.

[Badger]

Bad idea. While their usual mild in-house GOP lean seems to have gone off the charts lately, such recent (and hopefully short term) "WTF??" results are hardly a reason to exclude their polls.