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Kevin
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June 22, 2010, 11:52:08 pm »
Quote from: redcommander on June 19, 2010, 03:08:07 pm
I would say he should look towards someone who is also known for their fiscal credentials, or known for experience with foreign policy/constitutional issues.
Pat Toomey
Brian Sandoval
Marsha Blackburn
Judd Gregg
Paul Ryan
Brian Dubie
Jane Norton
Mitt Romney
Brian Sandoval would be a good pick as he comes from a Democratic-leaning swing state, is a well rounded candidate on the issues, young and is Hispanic.
If he win's the governorship of Nevada of course.
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Derek
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Quote from: Kevin on June 22, 2010, 11:52:08 pm
Quote from: redcommander on June 19, 2010, 03:08:07 pm
I would say he should look towards someone who is also known for their fiscal credentials, or known for experience with foreign policy/constitutional issues.
Pat Toomey
Brian Sandoval
Marsha Blackburn
Judd Gregg
Paul Ryan
Brian Dubie
Jane Norton
Mitt Romney
Brian Sandoval would be a good pick as he comes from a Democratic-leaning swing state, is a well rounded candidate on the issues, young and is Hispanic.
If he win's the governorship of Nevada of course.
You think NV is a democrat leaning swing state? The only evidence I see in that was the last election but that's only because of the housing market. Obama hasn't been too popular there since.
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redcommander
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Re: If Daniels is the GOP nominee in 2012...
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Reply #27 on:
June 23, 2010, 12:54:17 am »
Quote from: Derek on June 23, 2010, 12:17:38 am
Quote from: Kevin on June 22, 2010, 11:52:08 pm
Quote from: redcommander on June 19, 2010, 03:08:07 pm
I would say he should look towards someone who is also known for their fiscal credentials, or known for experience with foreign policy/constitutional issues.
Pat Toomey
Brian Sandoval
Marsha Blackburn
Judd Gregg
Paul Ryan
Brian Dubie
Jane Norton
Mitt Romney
Brian Sandoval would be a good pick as he comes from a Democratic-leaning swing state, is a well rounded candidate on the issues, young and is Hispanic.
If he win's the governorship of Nevada of course.
You think NV is a democrat leaning swing state? The only evidence I see in that was the last election but that's only because of the housing market. Obama hasn't been too popular there since.
It has been since 2006, although this year it will swing back for the Republicans (except for maybe the Senate race). I would also like to add Haley would be and excellent vp possibility as well since she is the heavy favorite for the governorship now.
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Derek
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Quote from: redcommander on June 23, 2010, 12:54:17 am
Quote from: Derek on June 23, 2010, 12:17:38 am
Quote from: Kevin on June 22, 2010, 11:52:08 pm
Quote from: redcommander on June 19, 2010, 03:08:07 pm
I would say he should look towards someone who is also known for their fiscal credentials, or known for experience with foreign policy/constitutional issues.
Pat Toomey
Brian Sandoval
Marsha Blackburn
Judd Gregg
Paul Ryan
Brian Dubie
Jane Norton
Mitt Romney
Brian Sandoval would be a good pick as he comes from a Democratic-leaning swing state, is a well rounded candidate on the issues, young and is Hispanic.
If he win's the governorship of Nevada of course.
You think NV is a democrat leaning swing state? The only evidence I see in that was the last election but that's only because of the housing market. Obama hasn't been too popular there since.
It has been since 2006, although this year it will swing back for the Republicans (except for maybe the Senate race). I would also like to add Haley would be and excellent vp possibility as well since she is the heavy favorite for the governorship now.
Every battleground state has gone to the left since 2006 and they're coming back to the right. NV is a swing state like NM, IA, OH, NH, and CO.
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milhouse24
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June 25, 2010, 01:45:34 am »
He should pick Jeb as VP to win florida, or maybe Crist. But I think Mitch is more VP material and not presidential material.
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June 30, 2010, 12:22:50 am »
Mitch is a social con, but he's not that outspoken about it, so he needs a Jesus-Christ-superstar kind of VP. Then he needs someone with foreign policy experience. Might I say Gingrich?
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John thune bc he shores up support among social conservatives.
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June 30, 2010, 12:17:40 pm »
Quote from: auburntiger on June 30, 2010, 12:09:04 pm
John thune bc he shores up support among social conservatives.
Shoring up support among social "conservatives" (really the authoritarian Right) implies the intensification of disdain among social liberals who now outnumber social conservatives. Sarah Palin so demonstrated that in 2008. Thune may not be as scatterbrained, but he isn't going to convert anyone.
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June 30, 2010, 12:34:24 pm »
Quote from: pbrower2a on June 30, 2010, 12:17:40 pm
Quote from: auburntiger on June 30, 2010, 12:09:04 pm
John thune bc he shores up support among social conservatives.
Shoring up support among social "conservatives" (really the authoritarian Right) implies the intensification of disdain among social liberals who now outnumber social conservatives. Sarah Palin so demonstrated that in 2008. Thune may not be as scatterbrained, but he isn't going to convert anyone.
Um ... pbrower ...
http://www.gallup.com/poll/141032/2010-Conservatives-Outnumber-Moderates-Liberals.aspx
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Derek
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Quote from: auburntiger on June 30, 2010, 12:09:04 pm
John thune bc he shores up support among social conservatives.
Shoring up support among social "conservatives" (really the authoritarian Right) implies the intensification of disdain among social liberals who now outnumber social conservatives. Sarah Palin so demonstrated that in 2008. Thune may not be as scatterbrained, but he isn't going to convert anyone.
Yes but there's more social conservatives than liberals. I'd like to see Daniels solidify the mid-west. Thune, Huckabee, Kasich, Thompson, or Pawlenty could do that.
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milhouse24
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July 04, 2010, 12:23:41 am »
Quote from: Derek on June 30, 2010, 04:07:34 pm
Quote from: pbrower2a on June 30, 2010, 12:17:40 pm
Quote from: auburntiger on June 30, 2010, 12:09:04 pm
John thune bc he shores up support among social conservatives.
Shoring up support among social "conservatives" (really the authoritarian Right) implies the intensification of disdain among social liberals who now outnumber social conservatives. Sarah Palin so demonstrated that in 2008. Thune may not be as scatterbrained, but he isn't going to convert anyone.
Yes but there's more social conservatives than liberals. I'd like to see Daniels solidify the mid-west. Thune, Huckabee, Kasich, Thompson, or Pawlenty could do that.
Thune would be a good choice, gives a governor/Senator balance. I'm not sure if you are talking about Fred Thompson but he would be a decent choice even though Freddy would never ever take the VP job because he hates campaigning. I'm not convinced Daniels even wants to run for President and he could very well lose to Barbour who wants the nomination more badly and has better influence in the RNC circles. I think a Catholic-HIspanic would be a good choice for a VP, takes away traditional Democrat voters in swing states.
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Derek
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Quote from: milhouse24 on July 04, 2010, 12:23:41 am
Quote from: Derek on June 30, 2010, 04:07:34 pm
Quote from: pbrower2a on June 30, 2010, 12:17:40 pm
Quote from: auburntiger on June 30, 2010, 12:09:04 pm
John thune bc he shores up support among social conservatives.
Shoring up support among social "conservatives" (really the authoritarian Right) implies the intensification of disdain among social liberals who now outnumber social conservatives. Sarah Palin so demonstrated that in 2008. Thune may not be as scatterbrained, but he isn't going to convert anyone.
Yes but there's more social conservatives than liberals. I'd like to see Daniels solidify the mid-west. Thune, Huckabee, Kasich, Thompson, or Pawlenty could do that.
Thune would be a good choice, gives a governor/Senator balance. I'm not sure if you are talking about Fred Thompson but he would be a decent choice even though Freddy would never ever take the VP job because he hates campaigning. I'm not convinced Daniels even wants to run for President and he could very well lose to Barbour who wants the nomination more badly and has better influence in the RNC circles. I think a Catholic-HIspanic would be a good choice for a VP, takes away traditional Democrat voters in swing states.
Ah yes Marco Rubio would also do well but let's keep experience in mind. I was thinking of Tommy Thompson actually. I agree that Fred Thompson wouldn't want the role of VP. Right now my top 2 choices for VP are Brown and Thune but I've also been thinking that Romney is going to get the nomination. Daniels may want to go the mid-western route and pick Thune or Huckabee.
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pbrower2a
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Re: If Daniels is the GOP nominee in 2012...
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Quote from: milhouse24 on July 04, 2010, 12:23:41 am
Quote from: Derek on June 30, 2010, 04:07:34 pm
Quote from: pbrower2a on June 30, 2010, 12:17:40 pm
Quote from: auburntiger on June 30, 2010, 12:09:04 pm
John thune bc he shores up support among social conservatives.
Shoring up support among social "conservatives" (really the authoritarian Right) implies the intensification of disdain among social liberals who now outnumber social conservatives. Sarah Palin so demonstrated that in 2008. Thune may not be as scatterbrained, but he isn't going to convert anyone.
Yes but there's more social conservatives than liberals. I'd like to see Daniels solidify the mid-west. Thune, Huckabee, Kasich, Thompson, or Pawlenty could do that.
Thune would be a good choice, gives a governor/Senator balance. I'm not sure if you are talking about Fred Thompson but he would be a decent choice even though Freddy would never ever take the VP job because he hates campaigning. I'm not convinced Daniels even wants to run for President and he could very well lose to Barbour who wants the nomination more badly and has better influence in the RNC circles. I think a Catholic-HIspanic would be a good choice for a VP, takes away traditional Democrat voters in swing states.
The only part of the Midwest in which a "social conservative" can shore things up for the Republican nominee is the swath of states from North Dakota to Oklahoma, none of which has voted for a Democratic nominee (except NE-02, once) since 1964, and Missouri, which is about half Southern. Otherwise a "social conservative" offends too many secular suburbanites. That includes most of the Hispanic population which has little use for anti-intellectualism even if it is undereducated. Hispanics are much more liberal than other Americans except on law and order.
A warning: tokenism will be a disaster. Sarah Palin became a token.
Heck, a "social conservative" might lose NE-02, consisting of Greater Omaha, again.
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Re: If Daniels is the GOP nominee in 2012...
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George Pataki or Gordon Smith fit well.
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Thomas D
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Quote from: Jensen on July 04, 2010, 07:42:18 pm
George Pataki or Gordon Smith fit well.
I like Gordon Smith. I'd like to see him make a comeback. I was kind of sad when he lost in 2008, And I'm a pretty partisan Democrat.
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milhouse24
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July 05, 2010, 12:35:35 am »
Quote from: Derek on July 04, 2010, 04:12:22 pm
Quote from: milhouse24 on July 04, 2010, 12:23:41 am
Quote from: Derek on June 30, 2010, 04:07:34 pm
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Quote from: auburntiger on June 30, 2010, 12:09:04 pm
John thune bc he shores up support among social conservatives.
Shoring up support among social "conservatives" (really the authoritarian Right) implies the intensification of disdain among social liberals who now outnumber social conservatives. Sarah Palin so demonstrated that in 2008. Thune may not be as scatterbrained, but he isn't going to convert anyone.
Yes but there's more social conservatives than liberals. I'd like to see Daniels solidify the mid-west. Thune, Huckabee, Kasich, Thompson, or Pawlenty could do that.
Thune would be a good choice, gives a governor/Senator balance. I'm not sure if you are talking about Fred Thompson but he would be a decent choice even though Freddy would never ever take the VP job because he hates campaigning. I'm not convinced Daniels even wants to run for President and he could very well lose to Barbour who wants the nomination more badly and has better influence in the RNC circles. I think a Catholic-HIspanic would be a good choice for a VP, takes away traditional Democrat voters in swing states.
Ah yes Marco Rubio would also do well but let's keep experience in mind. I was thinking of Tommy Thompson actually. I agree that Fred Thompson wouldn't want the role of VP. Right now my top 2 choices for VP are Brown and Thune but I've also been thinking that Romney is going to get the nomination. Daniels may want to go the mid-western route and pick Thune or Huckabee.
First, Tommy Thompson is almost 70. Scott Brown has 1 year of Senate experience and is from the same state as Romney - You might need to do some reading before you post these things.
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milhouse24
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Quote from: Jensen on July 04, 2010, 07:42:18 pm
George Pataki or Gordon Smith fit well.
Pataki is a committed pro-choicer
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Re: If Daniels is the GOP nominee in 2012...
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He doesn't need a so-con VP. He is so-con enough.
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Yelnoc
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I still say Robert Gates. He's a moderate with lots of experience and a strong foreign policy record who alienates nobody.
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