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dougrhess
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« on: November 02, 2004, 09:52:26 AM »

I thought it was the 6th CIrcuit.

This is a tough case.  In any county with voter registration over 100% I can hope we all agree that we NEED observers there. 

On the other hand it would be real easy to get out of hand and start trying to disqualify legitimate voters.

The Ohio GOP obviously planned their challenges well.  They sent mailings to many addresses with new registrants.  They now have a list of addresses which came back with a return to sender or whatever.

If they limit it to the list and keep thigns civil and polite, it will be a good thing to prevent voter fraud.

If they go overboard it could quickly become voter intimidation.

I expect it will end up doing both.

I think one idea is that they will use it to tie up the polling place and make people wait longer, thus turn some away. Also, the idea that a returned mail is grounds for a challege is baseless. The filing on behalf of the voters, by the dems or liberal groups, was well written on this. Sorry I don't have the link to the filing here and I don't know which of the cases it was from. I think the first once.

Also, is this federal or state courts? Is allowing challegers the same as allowing them to decide or allowing them to sit and take notes?

Finally, aren't two party reps already at each precint by state law and officials? Does this mean the parties want to place somebody "better" than the people the local officials or party might have chosen? I.e., they don't trust locals and want some overbearing outside lawyers to challenge or defend?
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dougrhess
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« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2004, 09:59:14 AM »


"As we all know, George Soros has paid a lot of money for phony invalid registrations."

> Doen't mean phony votes will occur. I'm interested in any evidence you find of this later. I'm sure there are studies of non-voters voting, but if you have proof this on any large scale let me know.

"Soros has been accused of many things, but stupidty is not one of them.

So, why pay for invalid registrations?

Well, it forms the basis for invalid votes."

>> No. The legal enforcement people who have looked into this that have commented on it so far, as have journalists, are clear: it was due to bad management where people handed in fake applications to claim they gathered them to get paid, or paid more.  I don't think the people doing the fakes were hoping that Micky Mouse would vote, etc.

"However the Republicans have been very well organized and made it clear they would not put up with vote fraud."

>> Just their own kind. Man, you're lopsided.

"I understand that Soros has been advised by his lawyers to pull the plug on this effort, and is reputedly following his lawyers advice."

>>Where is the proof of this?? I asked before and you didn't reply. Is this cited or just rumor you picked up?
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