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« on: June 22, 2010, 04:52:01 PM »

VA-02(POS for Scott Rigell)

Rigell(R): 41%
Nye(D-Inc): 35%

http://www.scottrigell.com/poll/June17KeyFindingsPollResults.pdf
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« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2010, 11:02:11 AM »

Internal. "POS" indeed.
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« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2010, 07:25:45 PM »

If Ringell wins, I don't think the GOP would be able to make his seat much safer in redistricting, so he could still be very vulnerable in a bad year for his party.
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« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2010, 07:37:28 PM »

If Ringell wins, I don't think the GOP would be able to make his seat much safer in redistricting, so he could still be very vulnerable in a bad year for his party.

Yea, but Drake was a loser anyway and never should have lost it to begin with.
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« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2010, 01:39:49 AM »

If Ringell wins, I don't think the GOP would be able to make his seat much safer in redistricting, so he could still be very vulnerable in a bad year for his party.

Yea, but Drake was a loser anyway and never should have lost it to begin with.

Obama won the district so you can't really blame Drake. The seat flipped because of Obama and Obama alone, this is one of the districts the Democrats picked up solely on his coattails due to increased black turnout.
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« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2010, 06:55:21 AM »

No, Thelma Drake was a horrible candidate, a complete empty suit without a single original thought in her head. Naturally, she has a post in the McDonnell administration now.
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« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2010, 06:25:20 PM »

If Ringell wins, I don't think the GOP would be able to make his seat much safer in redistricting, so he could still be very vulnerable in a bad year for his party.

Yea, but Drake was a loser anyway and never should have lost it to begin with.

Obama won the district so you can't really blame Drake. The seat flipped because of Obama and Obama alone, this is one of the districts the Democrats picked up solely on his coattails due to increased black turnout.

I didn't realize that Kirk, Reichert, Tiberi, and a host of CA seats flipped in 2008 as well as Obama did far better in many of those seats then VA-02 yet the GOP candidate won reelection?

If Drake was popular instead of 51% coast to victory type she wouldn't have had to worry about increased minority turnout.
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« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2010, 06:50:52 PM »

If Ringell wins, I don't think the GOP would be able to make his seat much safer in redistricting, so he could still be very vulnerable in a bad year for his party.

Yea, but Drake was a loser anyway and never should have lost it to begin with.

Obama won the district so you can't really blame Drake. The seat flipped because of Obama and Obama alone, this is one of the districts the Democrats picked up solely on his coattails due to increased black turnout.

I didn't realize that Kirk, Reichert, Tiberi, and a host of CA seats flipped in 2008 as well as Obama did far better in many of those seats then VA-02 yet the GOP candidate won reelection?

If Drake was popular instead of 51% coast to victory type she wouldn't have had to worry about increased minority turnout.

You have a point there. However, Drake had good challengers in both 2004 and 2006, and she still won both times.
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« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2010, 07:12:22 PM »

If Ringell wins, I don't think the GOP would be able to make his seat much safer in redistricting, so he could still be very vulnerable in a bad year for his party.

Yea, but Drake was a loser anyway and never should have lost it to begin with.

Obama won the district so you can't really blame Drake. The seat flipped because of Obama and Obama alone, this is one of the districts the Democrats picked up solely on his coattails due to increased black turnout.

I didn't realize that Kirk, Reichert, Tiberi, and a host of CA seats flipped in 2008 as well as Obama did far better in many of those seats then VA-02 yet the GOP candidate won reelection?

If Drake was popular instead of 51% coast to victory type she wouldn't have had to worry about increased minority turnout.

You have a point there. However, Drake had good challengers in both 2004 and 2006, and she still won both times.

55-45 and 51-49. And she was not a good candidate by all accounts.
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« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2010, 09:20:16 PM »

No, Thelma Drake was a horrible candidate, a complete empty suit without a single original thought in her head. Naturally, she has a post in the McDonnell administration now.

She wasnt that bad of a candidate.  She held a Democratic leaning House of Delegates district for nearly 10 years and beat Phil Kellam, who was a popular local officeholder in the main and most Republican part of the distirct, in 2006. 
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« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2010, 06:21:01 AM »

VA-02 isn't really a district that should be hard for a Republican to hold. Putting aside Obama's win there, it's a pretty solidly-Republican district, and it was redrawn after 2000 to remove some heavily-black precincts in Norfolk and add heavily-white Republican precincts in Hampton. Drake's win in 2006 was pretty much due to Allen's coattails (he won the 2nd 51-48, while Drake won the district with about 400 fewer raw votes), and a late-breaking "scandal" about how Kellam had an assault charge about 30-35 years prior.

As for her old House of Delegates district, it's pretty much the definition of a swing district.
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« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2010, 09:00:57 AM »

How's this: Drake was a weak candidate and an empty-suit, but that only mattered electorally because of the increased black turnout, which made the electorate far less Republican than normal.
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« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2010, 03:39:25 PM »

VA-02 isn't really a district that should be hard for a Republican to hold. Putting aside Obama's win there, it's a pretty solidly-Republican district, and it was redrawn after 2000 to remove some heavily-black precincts in Norfolk and add heavily-white Republican precincts in Hampton. Drake's win in 2006 was pretty much due to Allen's coattails (he won the 2nd 51-48, while Drake won the district with about 400 fewer raw votes), and a late-breaking "scandal" about how Kellam had an assault charge about 30-35 years prior.

As for her old House of Delegates district, it's pretty much the definition of a swing district.

I never heard about Kellam's assault charge before. I just remember the race being very close throughout all of 2006, with political pundits saying that it could go either way. Was the assault charge very serious, or was it politcally motivated?
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« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2010, 10:51:51 PM »

VA-02 isn't really a district that should be hard for a Republican to hold. Putting aside Obama's win there, it's a pretty solidly-Republican district, and it was redrawn after 2000 to remove some heavily-black precincts in Norfolk and add heavily-white Republican precincts in Hampton. Drake's win in 2006 was pretty much due to Allen's coattails (he won the 2nd 51-48, while Drake won the district with about 400 fewer raw votes), and a late-breaking "scandal" about how Kellam had an assault charge about 30-35 years prior.

As for her old House of Delegates district, it's pretty much the definition of a swing district.


Well, Owen Pickett held this district for many years without a sweat and he was a Democrat.
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