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Senator bore
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« on: December 16, 2014, 06:19:46 am »
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FY 2015 Budget

REVENUE

Income Taxes (By Tax Bracket)
$35K-80K (22%): TBD
$80K-170K (28%): TBD
$170K-368K (35%): TBD
$368K-1M (40%): TBD
$1M+ (60%): TBD
Income Tax Revenues: TBD

Corporate Taxes (By Tax Bracket)
$100K-1M (10%): TBD
$1M-10M (15%): TBD
$10M+ (25%): TBD                                 
Corporate Tax Revenues: TBD

Healthcare Taxes
Healthcare Payroll Tax (8.0%) (CSSRA Sec.4): TBD
Health Insurance Tax (ANHA Sec.2c): TBD               
Healthcare Tax Revenues: TBD

Excise Taxes      
Gasoline Tax (20 cents/gallon): TBD
Cigarette and Tobacco Tax ($0.43/pack, plus 2% or 4% for various products)* : TBD
Alcohol Tax (various rates per unit, plus 4% tax)*: TBD
Marijuana Tax ($2/pack cigarettes plus 20% on all products)*: TBD
Firearms Tax (Firearms and Mental Health Tax of 2013): TBD
*(National Sin Tax Act, as amended, and Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act)
Excise Tax Revenues: TBD

Carbon Taxes ($25-30/ton)
Domestic: TBD
Carbon Import Tax: TBD
Carbon Tax Revenues: TBD

Financial Transaction Tax: (0.5 % on each stock and similar transactions)
Financial Tax Revenues: TBD

Estate Taxes
Estate Tax Revenues: TBD
   
Special Program Taxes      
Plastic Bag Tax (Environmental Fund): TBD
Chain Business Differential Tax (SBA Fund): TBD
Oil Spill Protection Tax (5% on profits > $1B): TBD
Electrical Power Transmission Network Tax (0.65 c/kW-h): TBD
Special Program Tax Revenues: TBD

National Broadcaster Levy
Individual (0.25% > $50K): TBD
Corporate (0.5% > $350K): TBD
NBL Revenues: TBD

Miscellaneous Taxes
Customs Duties: TBD
Other Revenue (Sales, Earnings, Fees, Etc.): TBD
Go Green Fund (Returned to general fund; Omnibus Green Energy Act): TBD
Miscellaneous Tax Revenues: TBD

REVENUE: TBD

SPENDING               

TAX CREDITS

Earned Income Tax Credit: $46.3 B
Jobs Now Act of 2012 Credits: $8.06 B
Total Tax Credits: $54.36 B

DIRECT SPENDING

Military Spending
Military personnel: $105.0 B
Operation and maintenance: $120.06 B
Procurement: $60.0 B
Research, development, test and evaluation: $55.0 B
Military Construction, Family Housing and Other: $15.25 B
Atomic Energy Defense Activities: $18.29 B
Defense Related activities: $4.00 B
Military Spending Expenditures:  $377.54 B

Military Retirement
Military retirement: $49.0 B
Income security for veterans: $40.0 B
Veterans education, training, and rehabilitation: $18.0 B
Veterans mental health resources: $8.0 B
Hospital and medical care for veterans and retired military: $50.0 B
Housing and other veterans benefits and services: $5.0 B
Military Retirement Expenditures: $170 B

International Affairs
International development and humanitarian assistance: $18.0 B
International military aid: $5.0 B
Conduct of foreign affairs: $6.0 B
Foreign information and exchange activities: $2.0 B
Central Intelligence Agency: $30.0 B
International Affairs Expenditures: $56.0 B

General Science, Space, and Technology
National Science Foundation programs: $11.0 B
Department of Energy general science programs: $4.5 B
Space flight, research, and supporting activities   : $15.0 B
Nuclear Cleanup/Containment (Comprehensive Protection of Nuclear Power Act): $2.5 B
General Science, Space and Technology Expenditures:   $33.0 B

Non-Defense Energy Spending
Energy supply: $1.0 B
Energy conservation and preparedness: $1.03 B
Energy information, preparedness, & regulation: $0.36 B
Smart Grid development (the Smart Grid Electrical Distribution Act): $25.0 B
Coverage and Rate Protection (Electricity Fairness Act): $10.0 B
Non-Defense Energy Spending Expenditures:   $37.12 B

Natural Resources and Environment
Water resources: $5.45 B
Conservation and land management: $9.07 B
Recreational & Park resources: $3.12 B
Pollution control and abatement: $2 B
Environmental Fund from plastic bag tax: $4.9 B
Other natural resources: $5.1 B
Oil Spill Protection Fund (Oil Spill Protection Act): $7.2 B
National Foresty Association (Forest Restoration Act of 2013): $0.75 B
Natural Resources and Environment Expenditures:  $43.94 B

Agriculture
Farm income stabilization & crop insurance: $11.0 B
Agricultural research and services: $3.5 B
Worker Co-operative Loan Assistance (Worker Co-operative Pilot Program): $1.0 B
Agriculture Expenditures:     $15.50 B

Commerce and Housing Loan Programs
Federal Housing Loan Programs: $-4.28 B
Postal service: $2.17 B
Deposit insurance: $-0.96 B
Universal service fund: $7.96 B
Other advancement of commerce: $1.93 B
Commerce and Housing Loan Programs Expenditures:  $6.82 B

Transportation
Highways and highway safety: $31.13 B
High speed rail (Transportation Infrastructure Investment Act): $18.0 B
Other Mass transit: $9.0 B
Railroads: $2.81 B
Coast Guard:  $8.00 B
Air Transportation: $10.0 B
Water transportation: $5.65 B
Other transportation: $0.42 B
Transportation Expenditures: $85.01 B

Community and Regional Development
Community development: $6.25 B
Area and regional development: $8.36 B
Disaster relief and insurance: $10.15 B
Homeless Shelter Emergency Housing: $2.5 B
FEMA: $5.0 B
Community and Regional Development Expenditures: $32.26 B

Education
Elementary, Secondary & Vocational education: $71.89 B
Higher education: $41.05 B
Research and general education: $3.39 B
The Duke-Scott Educating the People Reform: $ B

Education Expenditures: $116.33 B

Training, Labor and Unemployment
Training and employment: $8.0 B
Labor law, statistics, and other administration: $1.6 B
Unemployment Insurance (CSSRA Sec. 5): $87.2 B
Training, Labor and Unemployment Expenditures: $96.8 B

Atlasian National Healthcare
IDS Community Health Partnership: $ B
ME Community Health Partnership: $ B
MW Community Health Partnership: $ B
NE Community Health Partnership: $ B
PA Community Health Partnership: $ B
Central Administration Costs: $ B
Atlasian National Healthcare Expenditures: $ B

Non-ANH Health Spending
Disease control, public health and bioterrorism: $4.7 B
Health research and training: $29.36 B
Food safety and occupational health and safety   : $3.01 B
Drug abuse treatment (Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act): $1.74 B
Regional Mental Health Fund (Firearms & Mental Health Act of 2013): $4.86 B
Center for Understanding and Researching the End to Cancer (CURE Cancer Act: $5.0 B
Non-ANH Health Spending Expenditures: $43.67 B

Civilian Retirement
Civilian retirement and disability insurance: $4.89 B
Federal employee retirement and disability   : $58.22 B
Federal employees' and retired employees' health benefits: $8.91 B
Elderly Insurance (CSSRA Sec. 6): $721.4 B
Civilian Retirement Expenditures:     $793.42 B

Atlasian National Broadcaster
Infrastructure maintenance and acquisition: $2.2 B
Administrative costs: $1 B
Atlasian National Broadcaster Expenditures:     $3.2 B

Aid to Low-Income Families
Housing assistance: $65.0 B
Food stamps: $85.58 B
Other nutrition programs (WIC, school lunches): $21.0 B
Child care funds: $4.8 B
Other aid to low-income families: $2.58 B
Aid to Low-Income Families Expenditures:     $182.96 B

Public Housing Expenses (Public Housing Act)
Public Housing Capital Fund: $5.0 B
Community Development Fund: $1.0 B
Neighborhood Stabilization Program: $2.0 B
Homeless Prevention: $0.50 B
Public Housing Expenditures:     $8.50 B

General Family Support:
Foster care and adoption assistance: $8.0 B
Child support and family support programs   : $2.92 B
Social and family services: $16.14 B
General Family Support Expenditures:     $27.06 B

Administration of Justice
Federal law enforcement: $7.25 B
Border security and immigration: $7.46 B
Federal litigation and judicial activities: $7.6 B
Federal prison system: $3.26 B
Criminal justice assistance: $4.22 B
Administration of Justice Expenditures:     $29.79 B

General Government Administration
Legislative functions: $2.75 B
Executive office programs: $0.95 B
IRS & other fiscal operations: $7.6 B
Other general government: $2.0 B
General Government Administration:     $13.30 B

Interest on Debt
Net Interest: TBD
Interest on Debt Expenditures:   TBD

TOTAL DIRECT SPENDING:     $TBD

EXPENDITURES:    TBD
SURPLUS:    TBD

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« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2014, 10:22:12 am »
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FY 2015 Budget

REVENUE

Income Taxes (By Tax Bracket)
$35K-80K (22%): TBD
$80K$100K-17025K (285%): TBD
$170K-368K (35%): TBD$125K-150K (27.5%): TBD
$368K-1M (40%): TBD
$1M+ (60%): TBD

$150K-175K (30%): TBD
$175K-200K (32.5%): TBD
$200K-225K (35%): TBD
$225K-250K (37.5%): TBD
$250K-275K (40%): TBD
$275K-300K (42.5%): TBD
$300K-325K (45%): TBD
$325K-350K (47.5%): TBD
$350K-375K (50%): TBD
$375K-400K (52.5%): TBD
$400K-425K (55%): TBD
$425K-450K (57.5%): TBD
$450K-475K (60%): TBD
$475K-500k (62.5%): TBD
$500K-525K (65%): TBD
$525K-550K (67.5%): TBD
$550K-575K (70%): TBD
$575K-600K (72.5%): TBD
$600K-625K (75%): TBD
$625K-650K (77.5%): TBD
$650K-675K (80%): TBD
$675K-700K (82.5%): TBD
$700K-725K (85%): TBD
$725K-750K (87.5%): TBD
$750K-775K (90%): TBD
$775K-800K (91%): TBD
$800K-825K (92%): TBD
$825K-850K (93%): TBD
$850K-875K (94%): TBD
$875K-900K (95%): TBD
$900K-925K (96%): TBD
$925K-950K (97%): TBD
$950K-975K (98%): TBD
$975K-1M (99%): TBD
$1M+ (100%): TBD

Income Tax Revenues: TBD

Corporate Taxes (By Tax Bracket)
$100K-1M (10%): TBD
$1M-10M (15%): TBD
$10M+ (25%): TBD

$100K-250K (2.5%): TBD
$250K-500K (5%): TBD
$500K-750K (7.5%): TBD
$750K-1M (10%): TBD
$1M-2.5M (12.5%): TBD
$2.5M-5M (15%): TBD
$5M-7.5M (17.5%): TBD
$7.5M-10M (20%): TBD
$10M-12.5M (22.5%): TBD
$12.5M-15M (25%): TBD
$15M-17.5M (27.5%): TBD
$17.5M-20M (30%): TBD
$20M-22.5M (32.5%): TBD
$22.5M-25M (35%): TBD
$25M-27.5M (37.5%): TBD
$27.5M-30M (40%): TBD
$30M-32.5M (42.5%): TBD
$32.5M-35M (45%): TBD
$35M-37.5M (47.5%): TBD
$37.5M-40M (50%): TBD
$40M-42.5M (52.5%): TBD
$42.5M-45M (55%): TBD
$45M-47.5M (57.5%): TBD
$47.5M-50M (60%): TBD
$50M-52.5M (62.5%): TBD
$52.5M-55M (65%): TBD
$55M-$57.5M (67.5%): TBD
$57.5M-60M (70%): TBD
$60M-62.5M (72.5%): TBD
$62.5M-65M (75%): TBD
$65M-67.5M (77.5%): TBD
$67.5M-70M (80%): TBD
$70M-72.5M (82.5%): TBD
$72.5M-75M (85%): TBD
$75M-77.5M (87.5%): TBD
$77.5M-80M (90%): TBD
$80M-82.5M (91%): TBD
$82.5M-85M (92%): TBD
$85M-87.5M (93%): TBD
$87.5M-90M (94%): TBD
$90M-92.5M (95%): TBD
$92.5M-95M (96%): TBD
$95M-$97.5M (97%): TBD
$97.5M-100M (98%): TBD
$100M-$1B (99%): TBD
$1B+ (100%): TBD
                                 
Corporate Tax Revenues: TBD

Healthcare Taxes
Healthcare Payroll Tax (8.0%) (CSSRA Sec.4): TBD

Health Insurance Tax (ANHA Sec.2c): TBD               
Healthcare Tax Revenues: TBD

Excise Taxes      
Gasoline Tax (20 cents/gallon): TBD
Cigarette and Tobacco Tax ($0.43/pack, plus 2% or 4% for various products)* : TBD
Alcohol Tax (various rates per unit, plus 4% tax)*: TBD
Marijuana Tax ($2/pack cigarettes plus 20% on all products)*: TBD
Firearms Tax (Firearms and Mental Health Tax of 2013): TBD

*(National Sin Tax Act, as amended, and Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act)

Excise Tax Revenues: TBD


Carbon Taxes ($25-30$50-75/ton)
Domestic: TBD
Carbon Import Tax: TBD
Carbon Tax Revenues: TBD

Financial Transaction Tax: (0.50.75 % on each stock and similar transactions)
Financial Tax Revenues: TBD

Estate Taxes
Estate Tax Revenues: TBD
   
Special Program Taxes      
Plastic Bag Tax (Environmental Fund): TBD
Chain Business Differential Tax (SBA Fund): TBD

Oil Spill Protection Tax (5% on profits > $1B): TBD
Electrical Power Transmission Network Tax (0.65 c/kW-h): TBD
Special Program Tax Revenues: TBD

National Broadcaster Levy
Individual (0.25% > $50K): TBD
Corporate (0.5% > $350K): TBD
NBL Revenues: TBD

Miscellaneous Taxes
Customs Duties: TBD
Other Revenue (Sales, Earnings, Fees, Etc.): TBD
Go Green Fund (Returned to general fund; Omnibus Green Energy Act): TBD
Miscellaneous Tax Revenues: TBD

REVENUE: TBD
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« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2014, 10:22:43 am »
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SPENDING               

TAX CREDITS

Earned Income Tax Credit: $46.3 B
Jobs Now Act of 2012 Credits: $8.06 B
Total Tax Credits: $54.36 BTBD

DIRECT SPENDING

Military Spending
Military personnel: $105.0 B$50 B
Operation and maintenance: $120.06 B$60B
Procurement: $60.0 B$30 B
Research, development, test and evaluation: $55.0 B$25B
Military Construction, Family Housing and Other: $15.25 B$30B
Atomic Energy Defense Activities: $18.29 B$36B
Defense Related activities: $4.00 B$2B
Military Spending Expenditures:  $377.54 BTBD

Military Retirement
Military retirement: $49.0 B$100B
Income security for veterans: $40.0 B$80B
Veterans education, training, and rehabilitation: $18.0 B$36B
Veterans mental health resources: $8.0 B$16B
Hospital and medical care for veterans and retired military: $50.0 B$100B
Housing and other veterans benefits and services: $5.0 B$10B
Military Retirement Expenditures: $170 BTBD

International Affairs
International development and humanitarian assistance: $18.0 B$36B
International military aid: $5.0 B
Conduct of foreign affairs: $6.0 B
Foreign information and exchange activities: $2.0 B$4B
Central Intelligence Agency: $30.0 B
International Affairs Expenditures: $56.0 B TBD

General Science, Space, and Technology
National Science Foundation programs: $11.0 B$22B
Department of Energy general science programs: $4.5 B$9B
Space flight, research, and supporting activities   : $15.0 B$30B
Nuclear Cleanup/Containment (Comprehensive Protection of Nuclear Power Act): $2.5 B$5B
General Science, Space and Technology Expenditures:   $33.0 BTBD

Non-Defense Energy Spending
Energy supply: $1.0 B$2B
Energy conservation and preparedness: $1.03 B$2.06B
Energy information, preparedness, & regulation: $0.36 B$0.72B
Smart Grid development (the Smart Grid Electrical Distribution Act): $25.0 B$50B
Coverage and Rate Protection (Electricity Fairness Act): $10.0 B$20B
Non-Defense Energy Spending Expenditures:   $37.12 TBD

Natural Resources and Environment
Water resources: $5.45 B$11B
Conservation and land management: $9.07 B$18B
Recreational & Park resources: $3.12 B$6B
Pollution control and abatement: $2 B$4B
Environmental Fund from plastic bag tax: $4.9 B
Other natural resources: $5.1 B$10B
Oil Spill Protection Fund (Oil Spill Protection Act): $7.2 B$15B
National Foresty Association (Forest Restoration Act of 2013): $0.75 B$1.50B
Natural Resources and Environment Expenditures:  $43.94 TBD

Agriculture
Farm income stabilization & crop insurance: $11.0 B$22B
Agricultural research and services: $3.5 B$7B
Worker Co-operative Loan Assistance (Worker Co-operative Pilot Program): $1.0 B
Agriculture Expenditures:     $15.50 TBD

Commerce and Housing Loan Programs
Federal Housing Loan Programs: $-4.28 B$9B
Postal service: $2.17 B$4B
Deposit insurance: $-0.96 B$2B
Universal service fund: $7.96 B$15B
Other advancement of commerce: $1.93 B
Commerce and Housing Loan Programs Expenditures:  $6.82 TBD

Transportation
Highways and highway safety: $31.13 B$62B
High speed rail (Transportation Infrastructure Investment Act): $18.0 B$36B
Other Mass transit: $9.0 B$18B
Railroads: $2.81 B$6B
Coast Guard:  $8.00 B$16B
Air Transportation: $10.0 B$20B
Water transportation: $5.65 B$10B
Other transportation: $0.42 B$2B
Transportation Expenditures: $85.01 TBD

Community and Regional Development
Community development: $6.2513 B
Area and regional development: $8.3616 B
Disaster relief and insurance: $10.1520 B
Homeless Shelter Emergency Housing: $2.55 B
FEMA: $5.0 10 B
Community and Regional Development Expenditures: $32.26 TBD

Education
Elementary, Secondary & Vocational education: $71.89141 B
Higher education: $41.0580 B
Research and general education: $3.397 B
The Duke-Scott Educating the People Reform: $ B

Education Expenditures: $116.33TBD B

Training, Labor and Unemployment
Training and employment: $8.016 B
Labor law, statistics, and other administration: $1.63 B
Unemployment Insurance (CSSRA Sec. 5): $87.2146 B
Training, Labor and Unemployment Expenditures: $96.8 TBD

Atlasian National Healthcare
IDS Community Health Partnership: $ B
ME Community Health Partnership: $ B
MW Community Health Partnership: $ B
NE Community Health Partnership: $ B
PA Community Health Partnership: $ B
Central Administration Costs: $ B
Atlasian National Healthcare Expenditures: $ B

Non-ANH Health Spending
Disease control, public health and bioterrorism: $4.710 B
Health research and training: $29.3660 B
Food safety and occupational health and safety   : $3.016 B
Drug abuse treatment (Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act): $1.744 B
Regional Mental Health Fund (Firearms & Mental Health Act of 2013): $4.8610 B
Center for Understanding and Researching the End to Cancer (CURE Cancer Act: $5.010 B
Non-ANH Health Spending Expenditures: $43.67 TBD

Civilian Retirement
Civilian retirement and disability insurance: $4.8910 B
Federal employee retirement and disability   : $58.22120 B
Federal employees' and retired employees' health benefits: $8.9117 B
Elderly Insurance (CSSRA Sec. 6): $721.41442 B
Civilian Retirement Expenditures:     $793.42 TBD

Atlasian National Broadcaster
Infrastructure maintenance and acquisition: $2.24.4 B
Administrative costs: $10.5 B
Atlasian National Broadcaster Expenditures:     $3.2 TBD

Aid to Low-Income Families
Housing assistance: $65.0130 B
Food stamps: $85.58160 B
Other nutrition programs (WIC, school lunches): $21.042 B
Child care funds: $4.810 B
Other aid to low-income families: $2.586 B
Aid to Low-Income Families Expenditures:     $182.96 TBD

Public Housing Expenses (Public Housing Act)
Public Housing Capital Fund: $5.010 B
Community Development Fund: $1.02 B
Neighborhood Stabilization Program: $2.04 B
Homeless Prevention: $0.501 B
Public Housing Expenditures:     $8.50 TBD

General Family Support:
Foster care and adoption assistance: $8.016 B
Child support and family support programs   : $2.926 B
Social and family services: $16.1432 B
General Family Support Expenditures:     $27.06 TBD

Administration of Justice
Federal law enforcement: $7.25 B
Border security and immigration: $7.46 B
Federal litigation and judicial activities: $7.6 B
Federal prison system: $3.26 B1.00B
Criminal justice assistance: $4.22 B$9B
Administration of Justice Expenditures:     $29.79 TBD

General Government Administration
Legislative functions: $2.75 B
Executive office programs: $0.95 B
IRS & other fiscal operations: $7.6 B15B
Other general government: $2.0 B
General Government Administration:     $13.30 TBD

Interest on Debt
Net Interest: TBD
Interest on Debt Expenditures:   TBD

TOTAL DIRECT SPENDING:     $TBD

EXPENDITURES:    TBD
SURPLUS:    TBD
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« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2014, 01:54:32 pm »
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Well, first of all, I apologize for the delay, I spent too many days trying to determine the extent of the deficit and new expenditures of Atlasia, and in the end it was evident that I was not going to be able to get the actual sums. As a result, I have sent this incomplete proposal so I can work with the Senate in order to get a budget passed.

In terms of spending it has become way too evident that we engaged on a massive spending spree through 2014 without caring for the consequences, and that puts us at a major problem when it comes to this budget, because we have literally no idea of the spending involved in the Duke-Scott education bill and whether the new Healthcare system will reduce costs (although I hope it will), not to mention all the other spending projects.

It was a campaign pledge of mine to raise military spending and I have done so in a measured way (which means that I have no intention of signing a budget without a significant increase here), something that I also did with international affairs and with the NASA budget (which is ridiculously low when compared to OTL United States), and to compensate for those raises I propose minor spending cuts in all substantial areas in the order of $1-2 B, which will enable us to reduce a potential deficit without causing major harm to most areas of spending.

Needless to say, I consider TNF's amendment unworkable and hostile.
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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2014, 06:19:13 pm »
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I will oppose any increase in military spending and will make delay any attempt to do so insofar as possible, by any means necessary.
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« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2014, 06:22:41 pm »
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I will oppose any increase in military spending and will make delay any attempt to do so insofar as possible, by any means necessary.

Well, then we might as well throw away any remnant of realism from the game. It's ridiculous to pretend we can carry on with the current levels, much less slash them again in half as if having a military was pointless and unnecessary.
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« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2014, 06:26:46 pm »
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Senator TNF? Really? No chance I'm supporting that amendment.
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« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2014, 06:52:11 pm »
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I'm going to interpret Polnut as objecting to TNF's amendment, so senators a vote is now open on TNF's amendment, please vote aye nay or abstain
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« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2014, 07:08:49 pm »
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I'm going to interpret Polnut as objecting to TNF's amendment, so senators a vote is now open on TNF's amendment, please vote aye nay or abstain

I should say, as President I oversaw a reduction in overall military spending. So that's not my concern. My concern is the tax structure. Thinking you can finance the Federal Government by only taxing the wealthy isn't realistic and is not a panacea to all economic ills.

I believe in fair and progressive income taxation - this is not progressive or especially practical. Tax evasion and income/asset shifting would become a growth industry in Atlasia. Didn't think Senator TNF would be supporting increasing the incomes of accountants and tax attorneys.

I said we need to re-examine our tax policy, but this isn't workable or realistic. I'm happy to look at other options for tax reform.
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« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2014, 07:15:04 pm »
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I'm going to interpret Polnut as objecting to TNF's amendment, so senators a vote is now open on TNF's amendment, please vote aye nay or abstain

I should say, as President I oversaw a reduction in overall military spending. So that's not my concern. My concern is the tax structure. Thinking you can finance the Federal Government by only taxing the wealthy isn't realistic and is not a panacea to all economic ills.

I believe in fair and progressive income taxation - this is not progressive or especially practical. Tax evasion and income/asset shifting would become a growth industry in Atlasia. Didn't think Senator TNF would be supporting increasing the incomes of accountants and tax attorneys.

I said we need to re-examine our tax policy, but this isn't workable or realistic. I'm happy to look at other options for tax reform.

I don't disagree with you, I just wanted to open a vote as soon as possible (i.e. before I go to bed) to save time.
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« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2014, 02:43:58 am »
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Nay I guess


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« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2014, 09:03:59 am »
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Aye

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« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2014, 09:05:20 am »
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« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2014, 12:45:31 pm »
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« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2014, 03:06:53 pm »
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Nay
These tax rates are, well...
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« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2014, 05:22:21 pm »
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« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2014, 05:26:57 pm »
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Farm income stabilization & crop insurance: $11.0 B
Agricultural research and services: $3.5 B
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Agriculture Expenditures:     $15.50 B

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« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2014, 06:30:37 pm »
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The amendment has enough votes to fail, senators have 24 hours to change their votes
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« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2014, 07:11:07 pm »
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Nay. The military cuts are bad enough, the income tax structure is a total non-starter.
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