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« Reply #75 on: March 05, 2011, 02:10:07 pm »
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Btw, I ask the Vice President, until we chose new PPT, to open confirmation threads ASAP.
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« Reply #76 on: March 05, 2011, 02:10:35 pm »
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Why am I ranking higher than Rowan in seniority order?

Because you swore in first.


Of course both of your's are legally questionable, if at acceptable at all Tongue
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« Reply #77 on: March 05, 2011, 02:12:02 pm »
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In fact I would suggest you both redo them, properly. Tongue
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« Reply #78 on: March 05, 2011, 02:15:53 pm »
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In fact I would suggest you both redo them, properly. Tongue

OK, re-done Tongue
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« Reply #79 on: March 05, 2011, 02:20:06 pm »
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In fact I would suggest you both redo them, properly. Tongue

OK, re-done Tongue
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Great now no one can sue over your vote being invalid if a close vote comes down to you. Wink
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« Reply #80 on: March 05, 2011, 09:02:05 pm »
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In fact I would suggest you both redo them, properly. Tongue

OK, re-done Tongue
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Great now no one can sue over your vote being invalid if a close vote comes down to you. Wink

OK, can we expell Brandon now? Wink
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« Reply #81 on: March 06, 2011, 06:06:25 pm »
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In fact I would suggest you both redo them, properly. Tongue

OK, re-done Tongue
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Great now no one can sue over your vote being invalid if a close vote comes down to you. Wink

OK, can we expell Brandon now? Wink

Actaully, we can't expell anyone, or Jas will sue. Tongue Atleast until my OSPR amendment passes establishing procedures for that.
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« Reply #82 on: March 14, 2011, 07:16:54 pm »
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« Reply #83 on: March 14, 2011, 07:36:39 pm »
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The prick in charge of this place is making me redo my oath for no good reason:

Everything is for a reason. Tongue
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« Reply #84 on: March 15, 2011, 06:38:30 pm »
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Kalwejt, the below bill has serious flaws. The first of which is that it is title "Repeal of Privacy Protection Act" yet its text is repealing the repeal of the privacy protection act, in which case, such should be reflected in the title as "Repeal of the Repeal..." or something. Tongue

Secondly the bill establishes the precedent of the absence of a law existing as being in contradication, when this is not the case. The mere absence of a law doesn't create a contradiction. It just means there isn't a redundancy. Lastly, I don't think there is a requirement the Atlasian law provide enforcements that double on enforcement of Atlasian administrative police. Baiscally you are claiming that not only most Arizona pass its immigration law but that if it doesn't it is in violation of Federal law if the State doesn't actively and agressively enforce federal law. 

Repeal of Privacy Protection Act

Considering that a Repeal of Privacy Protection Act (F.L. 34-3) is contradicting the higher power of Dave and rules, set by him on the entire forum, said law is hereby repealed.
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« Reply #85 on: March 15, 2011, 06:56:55 pm »
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Kalwejt, the below bill has serious flaws. The first of which is that it is title "Repeal of Privacy Protection Act" yet its text is repealing the repeal of the privacy protection act, in which case, such should be reflected in the title as "Repeal of the Repeal..." or something. Tongue

Secondly the bill establishes the precedent of the absence of a law existing as being in contradication, when this is not the case. The mere absence of a law doesn't create a contradiction. It just means there isn't a redundancy. Lastly, I don't think there is a requirement the Atlasian law provide enforcements that double on enforcement of Atlasian administrative police. Baiscally you are claiming that not only most Arizona pass its immigration law but that if it doesn't it is in violation of Federal law if the State doesn't actively and agressively enforce federal law. 

Repeal of Privacy Protection Act

Considering that a Repeal of Privacy Protection Act (F.L. 34-3) is contradicting the higher power of Dave and rules, set by him on the entire forum, said law is hereby repealed.

Hm, you got a point here, Yankee. Withdrew.
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« Reply #86 on: March 15, 2011, 07:26:46 pm »
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We could still have such a bill  though, only it would not contain the language referring to a higher power.  Since the Repeal of the Privacy Protection Act creates the false impression that there is no problem with publishing PMs, I believe this would be a good idea.
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« Reply #87 on: March 15, 2011, 07:38:02 pm »
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We could still have such a bill  though, only it would not contain the language referring to a higher power.  Since the Repeal of the Privacy Protection Act creates the false impression that there is no problem with publishing PMs, I believe this would be a good idea.

Why does the Atlasian law have double up on Forum administration. It exists over and above Atlasia and frankly takes the "Frankly, Scarlet, I don't give a damn" line when it comes to what the Atlasian government does. Hence why MasterJedi didn't and was right not to create a special exemption for Hammy and the boys as far as the NE assembly goes.

I will oppose any such attempt to restore the Privacy Protection Act. We have more to worry about then false impressions, and I think a better way can be found to combat such ignorance then restoring a flawed and potentially unconstitutional law.
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« Reply #88 on: March 15, 2011, 07:44:32 pm »
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I have instituted a new numbering system for amendments. Should I number all amendments regardless of what bill they are in order in which they are offered or should I start the numbering over for each bill.


Feline Protection Bill:
Senate Amendment 1
Senate Amendment 2

Do Not PM List Bill:
Senate Amendment 3

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Feline Protection Bill:
Senate Amendment 1
Senate Amendment 2

Do Not PM List Bill:
Senate Amendment 1


The noticeboard currently reflects the first option while the Do Not PM list bill the second option. Which do you prefer? I like the first one the most.
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« Reply #89 on: March 15, 2011, 07:49:22 pm »
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The Privacy Protection Act was an awful thing. Don't bring it back.
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« Reply #90 on: March 15, 2011, 07:53:05 pm »
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The Privacy Protection Act was an awful thing.

Elaborate.
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« Reply #91 on: March 15, 2011, 08:28:36 pm »
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The Privacy Protection Act was an awful thing.

Elaborate.

Blatantly unconstitutional and pointless.
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« Reply #92 on: March 15, 2011, 09:08:07 pm »
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The Privacy Protection Act was an awful thing.

Elaborate.

Blatantly unconstitutional and pointless.

You know, when I have private conservation, I don't like when the jerk is then posting it online.
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« Reply #93 on: March 15, 2011, 09:29:20 pm »
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The Privacy Protection Act was an awful thing.

Elaborate.

Blatantly unconstitutional and pointless.

You know, when I have private conservation, I don't like when the jerk is then posting it online.

Is the criteria for the constitutionality of a law based solely on whether Kalwejt doesn't like something? Tongue
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« Reply #94 on: March 15, 2011, 09:36:22 pm »
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I will oppose any such attempt to restore the Privacy Protection Act. We have more to worry about then false impressions, and I think a better way can be found to combat such ignorance then restoring a flawed and potentially unconstitutional law.

I would be very much interested in what can be done to combat such ignorance. Yankee? Kalwejt?
Franzl?
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« Reply #95 on: March 15, 2011, 10:10:28 pm »
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I will oppose any such attempt to restore the Privacy Protection Act. We have more to worry about then false impressions, and I think a better way can be found to combat such ignorance then restoring a flawed and potentially unconstitutional law.

I would be very much interested in what can be done to combat such ignorance. Yankee? Kalwejt?
Franzl?

What about a confidentiality of private conversation?
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« Reply #96 on: March 16, 2011, 12:22:06 am »
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I will oppose any such attempt to restore the Privacy Protection Act. We have more to worry about then false impressions, and I think a better way can be found to combat such ignorance then restoring a flawed and potentially unconstitutional law.

I would be very much interested in what can be done to combat such ignorance. Yankee? Kalwejt?
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What about a confidentiality of private conversation?

what is that?
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« Reply #97 on: March 17, 2011, 08:27:53 am »
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I really dislike the repeal, but seeing there much more urgent business for Senate, as well as realizing, this have no earthly chance of passing, I'm withdrawing the stuff.
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« Reply #98 on: March 19, 2011, 11:48:14 pm »
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Quick Question:


WHERE THE HELL ARE YOU PEOPLE?


Thank you
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« Reply #99 on: March 20, 2011, 09:09:12 am »
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Wow, I've been there for less than one full term and I'm already in the first half. Shocked
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Some of them have been twisted by the enemy
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Now what is wrong, or false, in what we have said?
Just some parts, or everything?
On whom can we still rely? Are we survivors, cast
away by the current? Will we be left behind,
no longer understanding anyone and being understood by no one?
Must we rely on luck?

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